News Disneyland Magic Key Program

[mickEblu]

So, same basic MK just new name and new price with a few extra days.

A few days? They added the entire month of June and July minus weekends.

 

[Disney Irish]

A few days? They added the entire month of June and July minus weekends.

Do we actually know the exact number of days? I don't believe its been announced yet, just assumed. Right now I believe Disney is just saying "expanded access during summer months".

So for now I'll stick with my "few days" statement just to temper expectations.

 

[mickEblu]

Do we actually know the exact number of days? I don't believe its been announced yet, just assumed. Right now I believe Disney is just saying "expanded access during summer months".

So for now I'll stick with my "few days" statement just to temper expectations.

You do that. You can never be too careful.

The article I read said weekdays in June/ July would be available with the Enchant replacement.

 

[Disney Irish]

You do that. You can never be too careful.

The article I read said weekdays in June/ July would be available with the Enchant replacement.

I've read a few other articles as well where it gave this actual screen shots of the renewal notifications people are getting -

So that doesn't seem like Disney is coming right out and saying that ALL weekdays in June and July are open. So for all we know it could be select days during the week like Mondays and Wednesdays, or Tuesdays and Thursdays, or a few Saturdays and Sundays, or any combination there of.

 

[mickEblu]

I've read a few other articles as well where it gave this actual screen shots of the renewal notifications people are getting -

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So that doesn't seem like Disney is coming right out and saying that ALL weekdays in June and July are open. So for all we know it could be select days during the week like Mondays and Wednesdays, or Tuesdays and Thursdays, or a few Saturdays and Sundays, or any combination there of.

That would be a strange departure of how they currently do blackouts. Weekdays in June/ July minus maybe some of the days around the 4th of July sounds more likely to me.

 

[Disney Irish]

That would be a strange departure of how they currently do blackouts. Weekdays in June/ July minus maybe some of the days around the 4th of July sounds more likely to me.

Could be, but this whole new key is a departure as the lower APs were always blocked out during the summer. And really what differentiates this new pass from the Believe Key if its all weekdays in June and July? As that is essentially what the Believe Key is now, with a few weekends added in. Do the couple extra weekends count for the $500 difference? Not in my opinion as a Believe Key holder. I might as well just cancel my Believe and get this new Explore and save the money. And I'd bet you'd have a bunch of other Believe Keys thinking the same thing.

So my guess is still its going to be select days during the summer not completely wide open during the week.

 

[mickEblu]

Could be, but this whole new key is a departure as the lower APs were always blocked out during the summer. And really what differentiates this new pass from the Believe Key if its all weekdays in June and July? As that is essentially what the Believe Key is now, with a few weekends added in. Do the couple extra weekends count for the $500 difference? Not in my opinion as a Believe Key holder. I might as well just cancel my Believe and get this new Explore and save the money. And I'd bet you'd have a bunch of other Believe Keys thinking the same thing.

So my guess is still its going to be select days during the summer not completely wide open during the week.

Believe Keys have most Saturdays available throughout the year and Enchant have had none the last couple years. In addition to having weekends available in Summer they are also not completely blocked out on weekends from October through December like Enchant passes are. That’s still a pretty big difference.

 

[Disney Irish]

Believe Keys have most Saturdays available throughout the year and Enchant have had none the last couple years. In addition to having weekends available in Summer they are also not completely blocked out on weekends from October through December like Enchant passes are. That’s still a pretty big difference.

Believe is actually blocked out of all Saturdays and some Sundays from October thru January, basically being mostly blocked out.

Anyways we'll see how it goes, I just don't see them adding the full 45ish days that you're talking about during June/July. It just doesn't make sense to me. Select days and maybe a few weekends, yes, but the full weekdays for 9ish weeks no.

 

[mickEblu]

But I’m noticing Disney is getting really aggressive with Blackouts from Halloween through Christmas. Looks like even Believe Keys lost all Saturdays and some Sundays. Looks like day tickets are showing very up strong during the holidays for there to be a $1500 key that only has access to the park on 8 weekend days the last 3 months of the year

 

[mickEblu]

Believe is actually blocked out of all Saturdays and some Sundays from October thru January, basically being mostly blocked out.

Anyways we'll see how it goes, I just don't see them adding the full 45ish days that you're talking about during June/July. It just doesn't make sense to me. Select days and maybe a few weekends, yes, but the full weekdays for 9ish weeks no.

Yeah I just noticed that and posted about it. But the difference is still clear. One pass has access to the park on weekends during the holidays and one does not. One has access to Saturdays for the majority of the year and one does not. One has access to the park on weekends during summer and one will not.

 

[mickEblu]

Anyways we'll see how it goes, I just don't see them adding the full 45ish days that you're talking about during June/July. It just doesn't make sense to me. Select days and maybe a few weekends, yes, but the full weekdays for 9ish weeks no.

Yeah I know it’s hard to believe Disney would do that but they know what they’re doing. They must see a soft summer coming up. They’d rather have those Enchant level passes coming to the parks and spending money there and not elsewhere. I’m living proof. We have found alternate forms of entertainment the last couple summers. Entertainment I wouldn’t have seeked out for the most part if I wasn’t blocked out. I’m guessing they re not suckering enough pass holders into those 3 day summer tickets.

 

[Disney Irish]

Yeah I know it’s hard to believe Disney would do that but they know what they’re doing. They must see a soft summer coming up. They’d rather have those Enchant level passes coming to the parks and spending money there and not elsewhere. I’m living proof. We have found alternate forms of entertainment the last couple summers. Entertainment I wouldn’t have seeked out for the most part if I wasn’t blocked out. I’m guessing they re not suckering enough pass holders into those 3 day summer tickets.

That assumes they actually pull that full trigger and not do a more abbreviated schedule like I'm suggesting.

But yes I also suspect they've seen the soft attendance during the summer that think it'll be better to at least partially allow them.

What this also gets me concerned about is if we're going to then see a return to the wall-to-wall packed summers like before that lead to all these blockouts in the first place. Which could have the reverse effect than they intended by driving single day passes away again like before. So if they do pull the trigger and allow full weekday access like you think I just don't see it ending up well.

 

[mickEblu]

That assumes they actually pull that full trigger and not do a more abbreviated schedule like I'm suggesting.

But yes I also suspect they've seen the soft attendance during the summer that think it'll be better to at least partially allow them.

What this also gets me concerned about is if we're going to then see a return to the wall-to-wall packed summers like before that lead to all these blockouts in the first place. Which could have the reverse effect than they intended by driving single day passes away again like before. So if they do pull the trigger and allow full weekday access like you think I just don't see it ending up well.

I don’t see wall to wall packed but it’s not going to be as “empty” as the last few summer for sure.

Going back to Believe vs Enchant/ Explore. One very important distinction… let’s say you’re an Enchant/ Explore and you want to take your kids 3 times over the summer and go 4 times over the holidays. For someone like me that’s 7 PTO/ vacation days you have to use just on Disneyland. That’s four times you have to pull your kids out of school to use those passes the last three months of the year. Whereas a Believe Key wouldn’t have to use one.

 

[Disney Irish]

I don’t see wall to wall packed but it’s not going to be as “empty” as the last few summer for sure.

Going back to Believe vs Enchant/ Explore. One very important distinction… let’s say you’re an Enchant/ Explore and you want to take your kids 3 times over the summer and go 4 times over the holidays. For someone like me that’s 7 PTO/ vacation days you have to use just on Disneyland. That’s four times you have to pull your kids out of school to use those passes the last three months of the year. Whereas a Believe Key wouldn’t have to use one.

But that isn't going to change even if it was full week access during the summer, you're still having to take PTO and taking the kids out of school.

Also I can't speak for others but I go mostly during the week not weekends during that time. This is why I'm a bit irritated if it does become the full week like you think, it going to impact me greatly making it more packed and less wanting to go. And I suspect I won't be alone in that feeling.

 

[mickEblu]

But that isn't going to change even if it was full week access during the summer, you're still having to take PTO and taking the kids out of school.

I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here.

Also I can't speak for others but I go mostly during the week not weekends during that time. This is why I'm a bit irritated if it does became the full weeks like you think, it going to impact me greatly making it more packed and less wanting to go.

Yeah sorry man it’s most likely going to be busier this summer but hey at least Imagine keys are still blocked out.

 

[Disney Irish]

Yeah sorry man it’s most likely going to be busier this summer but hey at least Imagine keys are still blocked out.

Not just busier but packed in my opinion.