??Disney shareholders support board members??

HauntedPirate

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
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Ummm... not much.

I find it rather curious how many times Mitchell goes out of his way to mention how independantly the board is conducting it's CEO search. Usually, when something keeps being brought up by the alleged conspirators, even when no one mentions it.
 
tigsmom

tigsmom

Well-Known Member
Well I can certainly say I didn't vote for them. They were all elected for another year. Eisner has one last year on his contract, but has publicaly stated he would like to stay on.
 
HauntedPirate

HauntedPirate

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Premium Member
Can you imagine the revolt Roy and Stan will lead if Eisner is on the Board after the new CEO is in? :mad: :fork:

It's just sad that so few people see how the cost-cutting has tarnished their image over the past 8-10 years. Go read Kevin Yee's excellent series on Disney over at www.miceage.com, especially Part 3. When I saw how bad "Treasure Planet" looked, and when Cinderella 2 came out, it made me look closer at what had been happening. And here I am today, critical of most things they do, sick of the marketing over-hype and product/branding overload. I'm skeptical about a lot of their machinations, because I saw what they were, and what they've become.
 
askmike1

askmike1

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Eisner has NEVER publicly stated he would stay on the board. He has said that he has not asked the board to stay on, but if the board were to ask him, he would have to think it over.

As for vote...Eisner got over a 92% approval rating....Eat that Roy!

-Michael
http://mfw.frandt.com
 
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Mr. Eggz

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Yes, he got a 92% approval rating by stepping down as Chairman and announcing he was leaving. Prior to making these two announcements he had a 45% disaproval rating (the largeest in history for the CEO of a blue chip company) and I might add he had over a 75% disaproval rating by 401K holding Cast Members.

Anyone who supports Eisner has not been paying attention.

Eat that.
 
askmike1

askmike1

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Mr. Eggz said:
Yes, he got a 92% approval rating by stepping down as Chairman and announcing he was leaving. Prior to making these two announcements he had a 45% disaproval rating (the largeest in history for the CEO of a blue chip company) and I might add he had over a 75% disaproval rating by 401K holding Cast Members.

Anyone who supports Eisner has not been paying attention.

Eat that.
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Or maybe, it could have been because ABC has 3 hits, BV crossed the $1billionth mark again for the umpteenth time, DL is getting an Extreme Makeover: Theme Park Edition, Attractions are opening up everywhere, profits are up, and the WDC is in good shape? He got 45% last year (and is still CEO) because Roy brainwashed everyone to thinking he was a god.

Try eating that.

-Michael
http://mfw.frandt.com
 
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Mr. Eggz

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askmike1 said:
Or maybe, it could have been because ABC has 3 hits, BV crossed the $1billionth mark again for the umpteenth time, DL is getting an Extreme Makeover: Theme Park Edition, Attractions are opening up everywhere, profits are up, and the WDC is in good shape? He got 45% last year (and is still CEO) because Roy brainwashed everyone to thinking he was a god.

Try eating that.

-Michael
http://mfw.frandt.com
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ABC has two hits. "Housewives" and "Lost." Nothing else consistently breaks into the top twenty. The executives that bought these two shows (Lloyd Braun & Susan Lyn) were fired by Eisner's lapdog, Iger. BV is run by D. Cook and Nina Jocobson. Eisner has threatoned to fire both of them. Nina was promoted into her position by Peter Shieder. Eisner has made it clear he does not like her and her job is hanging by a thread. He doesn't seem to care that she has made BV pass $1B for the umpteenth time. D. Cook got the job only after no one outside of Disney would take it (no one would work for Eisner). Eisner does not like him. You see, Mr. Cook started working as an hourly CM at Disneyland. Eisner thinks such people are "monkeys." DL is getting an exterme makeover because of the efforts of people like Roy, bringing attention to the problems at the park (DL President, Matt Ouimet met with old Disneylanders that Eisner gave "early retirement." Matt wanted to learn how to run Dinseyland from true Disney people). What you call attractions, I'd call clones. DCA and WDSP are loosing money and Disneyland Paris is on the brink of closing thanks to Eisner. I don't think Roy is a god, but I do know that Eisner is a devil. I speak as someone who was once under Eisner's crushing thumb. Anyone who has been there would agree with me.

I don't understand why people give credit to Eisner when the credit should go to the hardworking folks who have actually done the work inspite of Eisner.
 
askmike1

askmike1

Member
Mr. Eggz said:
ABC has two hits. "Housewives" and "Lost." Nothing else consistently breaks into the top twenty. The executives that bought these two shows (Lloyd Braun & Susan Lyn) were fired by Eisner's lapdog, Iger. BV is run by D. Cook and Nina Jocobson. Eisner has threatoned to fire both of them. Nina was promoted into her position by Peter Shieder. Eisner has made it clear he does not like her and her job is hanging by a thread. He doesn't seem to care that she has made BV pass $1B for the umpteenth time. D. Cook got the job only after no one outside of Disney would take it (no one would work for Eisner). Eisner does not like him. You see, Mr. Cook started working as an hourly CM at Disneyland. Eisner thinks such people are "monkeys." DL is getting an exterme makeover because of the efforts of people like Roy, bringing attention to the problems at the park (DL President, Matt Ouimet met with old Disneylanders that Eisner gave "early retirement." Matt wanted to learn how to run Dinseyland from true Disney people). What you call attractions, I'd call clones. DCA and WDSP are loosing money and Disneyland Paris is on the brink of closing thanks to Eisner. I don't think Roy is a god, but I do know that Eisner is a devil. I speak as someone who was once under Eisner's crushing thumb. Anyone who has been there would agree with me.

I don't understand why people give credit to Eisner when the credit should go to the hardworking folks who have actually done the work inspite of Eisner.
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1) ABC has 5 shows in the top 20::::
#4 DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES (only show to top Grammys in its broadcast run) ,
#10 MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL (consistantly top show of Monday night for umpteenth season),
#13 LOST (FOX moved AI because they were afraid of this show),
#14 EXTREME MAKEOVER:HE (19 million avg),
#20 ALIAS (formerly cult hit, now uber hit)
Also, ABC has what I call reletive hits. for example, 8 Simple Rules, Hope & Faith, and Less than Perfect do good for the night it is on (Friday is a low viewership night). In addition, ABC has had success with Boston Leagle (#23), According to Jim, Supernanny, Wife Swap, & Ex Make: How did they do that?

2) Disneyland's beautification was the result of Matt Oumiatt & Greg Emmers (both hired by Eisner), not Roy Disney.

3) :cough;disgruntled Employee:cough: Did I say that?

-Michael
http://mfw.frandt.com
 
Woody13

Woody13

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Mr. Eggz said:
I don't understand why people give credit to Eisner when the credit should go to the hardworking folks who have actually done the work inspite of Eisner.
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Eisner turned Disney into a DOW component. Also, had it not been for the Bass brothers, the company would have been lost to corporate raiders as a direct result of Roy's inept business practices.
 
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Mr. Eggz

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Woody13 said:
Eisner turned Disney into a DOW component. Also, had it not been for the Bass brothers, the company would have been lost to corporate raiders as a direct result of Roy's inept business practices.
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. He did not turn Disney into a DOW component by himself. It was Fank Wells and Roy Disney and Stanly Gold that got the support of the Bass family long before Eisner even became involved. The Basses didn't even want Eisner to be the CEO until Frank and Roy convinced them.

And what do you mean, "Roy's inept business practices." Roy wasn't running the Company, it was being run by Ron Miller. Roy resigned because, he did not like the way the company was being run. You need to get your facts together. Read Storming the Magic Kingdom by John Taylor.
 
Woody13

Woody13

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Mr. Eggz said:
And what do you mean, "Roy's inept business practices." Roy wasn't running the Company, it was being run by Ron Miller.
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Roy attempted to take over the Disney company back in the early 1980's and he totally messed up the deal. The company almost was lost to raiders. The company had to pay millions of dollars in "greenmail" to keep from getting torn apart. Roy is directly to blame for the entire mess because of his inept takeover attempt! Fortunately, the Bass brothers came in to rescue the company because of Stan Gold, not Roy Disney.

Also, Roy did not leave the company because "he did not like the way the company was being run". He was too old and was kicked off the board due to the rules. The same rules he had voted for a 2 years earlier! He quit his job at the company (not the board) because everyone knew his "job" was a joke!
 
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Mr. Eggz

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Woody13 said:
Roy attempted to take over the Disney company back in the early 1980's and he totally messed up the deal. The company almost was lost to raiders. The company had to pay millions of dollars in "greenmail" to keep from getting torn apart. Roy is directly to blame for the entire mess because of his inept takeover attempt! Fortunately, the Bass brothers came in to rescue the company because of Stan Gold, not Roy Disney.

Also, Roy did not leave the company because "he did not like the way the company was being run". He was too old and was kicked off the board due to the rules. The same rules he had voted for a 2 years earlier! He quit his job at the company (not the board) because everyone knew his "job" was a joke!
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You have no idea what you are talking about. All this happened in 1984. Roy was not too old, he was in his 50s. Roy was not a part of the company, he did not pay the greenmail, and he disagreed with the paying of greenmail. It was paid by the board of directors lead by Ray Watson and Ron Miller. You really don't know what you are talking about. The takeover attpemts were made by Ivan Boesky and Saul Stienberg. Roy and Stan brought in Eisner and Wells. Roy, Stan, Eisner and Wells saved the company together in '84. Also read The Disney Touch.
 
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Mr. Eggz

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askmike1 said:
1) ABC has 5 shows in the top 20::::
#4 DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES (only show to top Grammys in its broadcast run) ,
#10 MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL (consistantly top show of Monday night for umpteenth season),
#13 LOST (FOX moved AI because they were afraid of this show),
#14 EXTREME MAKEOVER:HE (19 million avg),
#20 ALIAS (formerly cult hit, now uber hit)
Also, ABC has what I call reletive hits. for example, 8 Simple Rules, Hope & Faith, and Less than Perfect do good for the night it is on (Friday is a low viewership night). In addition, ABC has had success with Boston Leagle (#23), According to Jim, Supernanny, Wife Swap, & Ex Make: How did they do that?

2) Disneyland's beautification was the result of Matt Oumiatt & Greg Emmers (both hired by Eisner), not Roy Disney.

3) :cough;disgruntled Employee:cough: Did I say that?

-Michael
http://mfw.frandt.com
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How could Eisner have hired Greg Emmer, when Emmer has been with the company longer than Eisner?

...and wow, if all those shows are "Hits" ABC must be the #1 network.

And, you know what, 75% of the vested employees/cast members voted to remove Eisner from the board. With a number of disgruntled employees that large, the problem is not with the employees, it is with the employer.

Good luck entering the work force. There's a great big world out there just waiting for you. Good luck. You'll need it.
 
askmike1

askmike1

Member
Mr. Eggz said:
...and wow, if all those shows are "Hits" ABC must be the #1 network.
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When you have a show, like Desperate Housewives, that tramples down everything in its path, I'd call it a hit. The only show ever to beat the Grammys is Desperate Housewives. ABC was the butt of many jokes last year but now, other networks are starting to fear them. The recent Happy Days reunion was watched by 20million people. I could go on, but it is late.

As for employee disatisfaction, well see what the percent was this year...

-Michael
http://mfw.frandt.com
 

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