Disney Genie, Genie+ officially introduced along with confirmed details of how it will work

So here is the itinerary that I am thinking about. Let me know if you see something that screams "Hey idiot! You're doing it wrong!" 😁 (Keep in mind, we do not care even a little about PP.)

Day 1 - Disney Springs (and possibly BooBash)
No G+ needed.

Day 2 - MK
Purchase ILL's for SpaceM x3 and 7DMT x3
Schedule first G+ for JC at 7am and then go for other G+ the rest of the day in order of importance to us.
Rope drop Space Mountain, CoP, and Buzz

Day 3 - DHS
Purchase ILL's for RotR x3 and MMRR x4
Schedule first G+ for RR at 7am and then go for other G+ the rest of the day in order of importance to us.
Rope drop SDD and TSMM

Day 4 - AK
Purchase ILL's for EE x3 and FoP x3
Schedule first G+ for Dinoaur at 7am and then go for other G+ the rest of the day in order of importance to us.
Rope drop Na'Vi River and Kilimanjaro Safaris

Day 5 - Epcot
Purchase ILL's for Frozen x4 and Remy x4
Schedule first G+ for Soarin at 7am and then go for other G+ the rest of the day in order of importance to us.
Rope drop Living w/Land and Seas w/ Nemo

Day 6 - MK
Purchase ILL's for SpaceM x3 and 7DMT x3
Schedule first G+ for JC at 7am and then go for other G+ the rest of the day in order of importance to us.
Rope drop Under the Sea and MILF

Day 7 - Clearwater Beach
Day 8 - Clearwater Beach
Lots of good choices here! However, your rope drop strategy is... odd.
Day 2 - you don't need to rope drop CoP (that's an anytime attraction)
Day 4 - it seems like you're going in the fall. EE is arguably the worst attraction to buy an ILL for. I would just go towards the end of the day and the wait will be shorter. Or single-rider. It really isn't worth the $$$. I would rope-drop Na'vi River first just because of the shocking capacity.
Day 5 - Do NOT rope-drop Nemo and Living with the Land, please. They will be short wait times in the afternoon. Rope-drop Soarin' or Remy. Everyone goes to Test Track which is often down in the morning so you lose a lot of time. Soarin' is always the better rope-drop option I find. Also schedule your first G+ for Test Track not Soarin' - Soarin' should last longer. It's worth noting that once Guardians opens, either Frozen or Remy will no longer be ILL (most likely Remy cos Frozen will sell better).
Day 6 - Likewise, these are terrible choice for rope-drop. MILF won't be open at rope-drop most likely and Under-the-Sea doesn't get appreciable waits until late morning.

I hope this helps!
 
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G00fyDad

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Lots of good choices here! However, your rope drop strategy is... odd.
Day 2 - you don't need to rope drop CoP (that's an anytime attraction)
Day 4 - it seems like you're going in the fall. EE is arguably the worst attraction to buy an ILL for. I would just go towards the end of the day and the wait will be shorter. Or single-rider. It really isn't worth the $$$. I would rope-drop Na'vi River first just because of the shocking capacity.
Day 5 - Do NOT rope-drop Nemo and Living with the Land, please. They will be short wait times in the afternoon. Rope-drop Soarin' or Remy. Everyone goes to Test Track which is often down in the morning so you lose a lot of time. Soarin' is always the better rope-drop option I find.
Day 6 - Likewise, these are terrible choice for rope-drop. MILF won't be open at rope-drop most likely and Under-the-Sea doesn't get appreciable waits until late morning.

I hope this helps!

Yes. It does. Sadly I haven't been to Disney in 8 years. A LOT of things have changed and though I had a touring plan laid out in perfect detail before it included FP+ and G+ is vastly different and tossed all of my well laid plans in the shredder. Thank you for your input. I am going to rework my plan of attack with that info in mind now. 😁
 

dovetail65

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Lots of good choices here! However, your rope drop strategy is... odd.
Day 2 - you don't need to rope drop CoP (that's an anytime attraction)
Day 4 - it seems like you're going in the fall. EE is arguably the worst attraction to buy an ILL for. I would just go towards the end of the day and the wait will be shorter. Or single-rider. It really isn't worth the $$$. I would rope-drop Na'vi River first just because of the shocking capacity.
Day 5 - Do NOT rope-drop Nemo and Living with the Land, please. They will be short wait times in the afternoon. Rope-drop Soarin' or Remy. Everyone goes to Test Track which is often down in the morning so you lose a lot of time. Soarin' is always the better rope-drop option I find.
Day 6 - Likewise, these are terrible choice for rope-drop. MILF won't be open at rope-drop most likely and Under-the-Sea doesn't get appreciable waits until late morning.

I hope this helps!
Rope drops when the park are open 30 minutes to the hotel guests reduce the need for Rope drops and in many cases rope dropping at all. Now if you are a on site guest getting there at opening makes more sense.
 
Yes. It does. Sadly I haven't been to Disney in 8 years. A LOT of things have changed and though I had a touring plan laid out in perfect detail before it included FP+ and G+ is vastly different and tossed all of my well laid plans in the shredder. Thank you for your input. I am going to rework my plan of attack with that info in mind now. 😁
Generally getting to the park early (if you're in a Disney hotel take advantage of the extra 30 mins) works best. Future World (or whatever they call it now) in Epcot is usually pretty dead from 4 no matter when you go as well (it was even at Christmas) except for Test Track and Soarin'. HS is by far the hardest to plan.
 
Rope drops when the park are open 30 minutes to the hotel guests reduce the need for Rope drops and in many cases rope dropping at all. Now if you are a on site guest getting at opening makes more sense.
Tell that to the people who were still running to SDMT when the parks were opening an hour early at Christmas... though it definitely lessens the need for sure.
 

G00fyDad

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Generally getting to the park early (if you're in a Disney hotel take advantage of the extra 30 mins) works best. Future World (or whatever they call it now) in Epcot is usually pretty dead from 4 no matter when you go as well (it was even at Christmas) except for Test Track and Soarin'. HS is by far the hardest to plan.
We are staying on-site so we will have the 30 minutes extra. I am going to have to research what is open during that early 30 minutes.
 

dovetail65

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Lots of good choices here! However, your rope drop strategy is... odd.
Day 2 - you don't need to rope drop CoP (that's an anytime attraction)
Day 4 - it seems like you're going in the fall. EE is arguably the worst attraction to buy an ILL for. I would just go towards the end of the day and the wait will be shorter. Or single-rider. It really isn't worth the $$$. I would rope-drop Na'vi River first just because of the shocking capacity.
Day 5 - Do NOT rope-drop Nemo and Living with the Land, please. They will be short wait times in the afternoon. Rope-drop Soarin' or Remy. Everyone goes to Test Track which is often down in the morning so you lose a lot of time. Soarin' is always the better rope-drop option I find. Also schedule your first G+ for Test Track not Soarin' - Soarin' should last longer. It's worth noting that once Guardians opens, either Frozen or Remy will no longer be ILL (most likely Remy cos Frozen will sell better).
Day 6 - Likewise, these are terrible choice for rope-drop. MILF won't be open at rope-drop most likely and Under-the-Sea doesn't get appreciable waits until late morning.

I hope this helps!
Also schedule your first G+ for Test Track not Soarin'

MY wife would slap my face if I did that, hehe. One time she had me bring her to EPCOT 4 days in a row to go on Soarin, eat lunch and then leave.

They did have a promotion at that time "go to EPCOT 4 times and get coasters". Boy times have changed. Sometimes it seems like Disney doesn't want AP holders going at all let alone 4 times in a 30 day span, even though we dropped money on lunch everyday(and souvenirs at least once in those 4 days as well).
 

DCBaker

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dovetail65

Well-Known Member
Tell that to the people who were still running to SDMT when the parks were opening an hour early at Christmas... though it definitely lessens the need for sure.
Well we are beyond the age nor have the need to run for the rides, we are lucky enough to just go another day if we need to. For the younger people going that one time, heck yeah go and run for it.

This upcoming trip we are going with the attitude to walk the bubble more than getting on all the attractions. I can't have pressure on me right now. We will do our ADR and extra tours and if rides and attractions present themselves either through short Standby, Genie+ or LL while walking around we will do them. The years of organizing getting my family on all the rides and attractions in the shortest amount of time as a priority are over. Now the priority is just to be there, we are lucky enough to be able to do that now.
 

DisneyCane

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Tell that to the people who were still running to SDMT when the parks were opening an hour early at Christmas... though it definitely lessens the need for sure.
I think I will discover the meaning of life before I figure out why SDMT is so popular/coveted. I rode it a few days after the COVID reopening with a 10 minute wait and still thought it wasn't worth the wait.
 
I think I will discover the meaning of life before I figure out why SDMT is so popular/coveted. I rode it a few days after the COVID reopening with a 10 minute wait and still thought it wasn't worth the wait.
I just don't understand it. We casually strolled on past them to Peter Pan which was a walk on. SDMT was a 40 minute wait and backed up to Mad Tea Party. Madness.
 

rioriz

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For the benefit of our fine community here, you MUST tell us !!
Ok this worked twice on this trip:

Day 1: got SM Lightning Lane at 930. Qhen time came it was down so they gave a "use Almost anywhere" pass to use on another attraction. However they allowed me to retrieve another "Lightning" for Space Mountain again at 10:30. Well it was down so was issued another "use anywhere" pass. Then I booked SM again, at 12:15. This time.it just opened. Jumped in SB, 5 minute wait, then used my 12:15, then 1 of my anywhere, and used the other on BtmRr.

Day 2: followed the same routine for ToT, and was able to get on ToT 3 times in a row and RnRc.

So it will always depend what's down and if a return time is given, and relatively soon.

If someone else tried this and got success let us know
 

SingleRider

Premium Member
Ok this worked twice on this trip:

Day 1: got SM Lightning Lane at 930. Qhen time came it was down so they gave a "use Almost anywhere" pass to use on another attraction. However they allowed me to retrieve another "Lightning" for Space Mountain again at 10:30. Well it was down so was issued another "use anywhere" pass. Then I booked SM again, at 12:15. This time.it just opened. Jumped in SB, 5 minute wait, then used my 12:15, then 1 of my anywhere, and used the other on BtmRr.

Day 2: followed the same routine for ToT, and was able to get on ToT 3 times in a row and RnRc.

So it will always depend what's down and if a return time is given, and relatively soon.

If someone else tried this and got success let us know
If your LL time is near park closing (within the last hour or so) and the ride goes down, you get one pass good at most G+ attractions at any WDW park throughout the next day. This happened to me recently and the pass excluded all individual purchase attractions as well as Slinky, Peter Pan, Navi, Soarin, and Test Track but was good on anything else.
 

rioriz

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If your LL time is near park closing (within the last hour or so) and the ride goes down, you get one pass good at most G+ attractions at any WDW park throughout the next day. This happened to me recently and the pass excluded all individual purchase attractions as well as Slinky, Peter Pan, Navi, Soarin, and Test Track but was good on anything else.
I'm not mad at them because I got two free passes, but I wonder why they continue to me offer return times when the ride is still down. It would make sense do not offer any return time until the ride is backup. I'm sure they will figure out this glitch pretty soon
 

Disstevefan1

Well-Known Member
Ok this worked twice on this trip:

Day 1: got SM Lightning Lane at 930. Qhen time came it was down so they gave a "use Almost anywhere" pass to use on another attraction. However they allowed me to retrieve another "Lightning" for Space Mountain again at 10:30. Well it was down so was issued another "use anywhere" pass. Then I booked SM again, at 12:15. This time.it just opened. Jumped in SB, 5 minute wait, then used my 12:15, then 1 of my anywhere, and used the other on BtmRr.

Day 2: followed the same routine for ToT, and was able to get on ToT 3 times in a row and RnRc.

So it will always depend what's down and if a return time is given, and relatively soon.

If someone else tried this and got success let us know
The main factor is the attraction you have a LL for happens to be down.

A reasonably good chance these days at WDW unfortunately 😐

So it sounds like even when an attraction is down, you should try to get the next available LL. Never assume because an attraction is down you can’t get a LL, in fact always TRY to get the next available LL of an attraction that is down in hopes to get a “anywhere” pass.
 

rioriz

Well-Known Member
The main factor is the attraction you have a LL for happens to be down.

A reasonably good chance these days at WDW unfortunately 😐

So it sounds like even when an attraction is down, you should try to get the next available LL. Never assume because an attraction is down you can’t get a LL, in fact always TRY to get the next available LL of an attraction that is down in hopes to get a “anywhere” pass.
You got it exactly right
 

flutas

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I'm not mad at them because I got two free passes, but I wonder why they continue to me offer return times when the ride is still down. It would make sense do not offer any return time until the ride is backup. I'm sure they will figure out this glitch pretty soon

This happened with MaxPass at DLR, so it seems like they never fixed it.

I specifically remember one day Goofys Sky School was down, and being a not so popular attraction had return times of < 5 minutes.

Well, it would gift you the apology FP 5 minutes after the return time. I had a very large number of makeup passes that day...

Fun fact: MaxPass at DLR also had no real restrictions on the actual "booking" function aside from it had to be for the same day. Book a FP at 12:01am? You can book another one at 1:31am.
 

crazy4disney

Active Member
In the Parks
No
I'm not mad at them because I got two free passes, but I wonder why they continue to me offer return times when the ride is still down. It would make sense do not offer any return time until the ride is backup. I'm sure they will figure out this glitch pretty soo
Ok this worked twice on this trip:

Day 1: got SM Lightning Lane at 930. Qhen time came it was down so they gave a "use Almost anywhere" pass to use on another attraction. However they allowed me to retrieve another "Lightning" for Space Mountain again at 10:30. Well it was down so was issued another "use anywhere" pass. Then I booked SM again, at 12:15. This time.it just opened. Jumped in SB, 5 minute wait, then used my 12:15, then 1 of my anywhere, and used the other on BtmRr.

Day 2: followed the same routine for ToT, and was able to get on ToT 3 times in a row and RnRc.

So it will always depend what's down and if a return time is given, and relatively soon.

If someone else tried this and got success let us know
Ok this worked twice on this trip:

Day 1: got SM Lightning Lane at 930. Qhen time came it was down so they gave a "use Almost anywhere" pass to use on another attraction. However they allowed me to retrieve another "Lightning" for Space Mountain again at 10:30. Well it was down so was issued another "use anywhere" pass. Then I booked SM again, at 12:15. This time.it just opened. Jumped in SB, 5 minute wait, then used my 12:15, then 1 of my anywhere, and used the other on BtmRr.

Day 2: followed the same routine for ToT, and was able to get on ToT 3 times in a row and RnRc.

So it will always depend what's down and if a return time is given, and relatively soon.

If someone else tried this and got success let us know
I can confirm this happened to me multiple times when I was there in November when rides were down & i had a LL it turned basically into the old multiple experience FP excluding the paid attractions for the park I was at.
 

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