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Disney Genie, Genie+ officially introduced along with confirmed details of how it will work

Jeff4272

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If it’s making them money and people continue to pay for it, they aren’t gonna get rid of it.

As for negatively affecting guest experience, your’s has definitely been interesting one to read about. I experienced G+ the first week of November, and it probably overall enhanced my experience.

As much as FP+? No. Absolutely not. But enough that it keep us moving and our waits to a relative minimum.

I didn’t have issues with the sell outs and lack of availability the way you have. Suggests G+ will be most useful at less busy times of the year, though that could have been said of FP+ too I suppose. I miss FP+ (especially the fact that it was free) but G+ was workable for our group of two.
Yes I agree. I think what’s going on is, when it’s busy, it’s not worth it and when it’s slow, you don’t need it.

let’s see how guest behavior is over the next 18 months.

my guess is this fails way sooner than FP+ did
 

Jeff4272

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ImperfectPixie

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I know. It was more supposed to be a joke/to point that Wall Street plays an enormous role in what Disney does these days. That is the huge driver of any change and why their focus is on Disney+.
Which is understandable...HOWEVER...they seem to keep forgetting that the parks are 40% of their revenue. You can't neglect a revenue-generating portion of the business and expect it to keep functioning.
 

hopemax

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they should spin it off.
Hard to do when the "industry leader" is the one that wants out of the game. Hard to find a buyer, because everyone is thinking "If Disney wants to sell, then how good of a business is it to be in? What do they know?" I do think Burbank would prefer to license their content than be responsible for operations if they could, but they need a partner. The ones with the pockets are busy building spaceships, and Saudi oil isn't a good partner now for other reasons.
 

seascape

Well-Known Member
I know. It was more supposed to be a joke/to point that Wall Street plays an enormous role in what Disney does these days. That is the huge driver of any change and why their focus is on Disney+.
Wall Street overly rewards a company based on a good number and overly penalizes for a bad number. The company will survive this downturn and the stock price will riee ovee time. Invest for the long run and gamble on sports.
 

bubbles1812

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Wall Street overly rewards a company based on a good number and overly penalizes for a bad number. The company will survive this downturn and the stock price will riee ovee time. Invest for the long run and gamble on sports.
Absolutely. I have not been worried much about Disney’s long term prospects stock wise, but it doesn’t change that Wall Street is still a huge driver relating to their choices. Especially with the likes of Iger and Chapek at the reigns.
 

Casper Gutman

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I know. It was more supposed to be a joke/to point that Wall Street plays an enormous role in what Disney does these days. That is the huge driver of any change and why their focus is on Disney+.
The focus on Disney+ is logical to some extent. Streaming is the future. But it also feels a lot like Wall Streets myopic obsession with China, driven as much by collective belief as by sober evaluation.

And Disney+‘s main selling point, it’s advantage over Peacock or Apple or what have you, is that Disney name. And that Disney name means primarily two things - animation and theme parks. Ultimately, that’s the brand. And that’s what Wall Street doesn’t get - they think it can be Star Wars and Marvel, or that it’s just a name like Paramount or Universal.

On another note, I love Marvel and Star Wars, but that can’t be the extent of their content if they want to be Netflix. They’re going to have move way out of their comfort zone, expand beyond family only content. And they’re going to need to fix the Marvel stuff - I’ve enjoyed Loki, WV, and Hawkeye, but other then possibly the first six episodes of Wanda, they haven’t cracked the streaming model the way they’ve cracked film. They don’t feel as tight or polished.
They also feel cheaper, despite big stars and promises of spending equivalent to the films.
 

Waters Back Side

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Is it true they are basically turning standby off on rides this week? I have seen screemshots. So if its too busy you cant wait or buy your way on? So your jusr SOL?



Who knows what to believe anymore. I have not seen that. But I swear I am NOT defending Genie + at all but... people on here have said they could not get the ride they wanted at 7:02 am. When every day this week at 7:10 there was availability for SDD and Rise. So magically it was available for some on the Genie + and and not on others? The fact any ride is sold out even on the first 20 minutes is ridiculous in it's own right, but I do not buy for a second that people could not even get ONE ride at 7:02 am. Unless Genie + was having issues itself, sorry, I dont believe it. Its either user error, or they are lying.

Even if FP+ was much better I'll still be able to get the ride I choose first on my HS day in Christmas week. Whether its Rise (ILL), SDD (Genie +) or even both in the first 10 minutes. I also saw today at after 11am AND 1pm RNRC still had availability (8:05 pm). So my 2nd Genie + would have been fine also. It is not just on this forum. Other chats and posts on social media I see people could also say not ride even 1 of their top choices when they tried at 7am while others got the tides with no issue.
 
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jpchambana

New Member
Interestingly looking at wait times just now (so 8pm ET on Thanksgiving) in MK there were several attractions which are walk-on; HM, POTC, Buzz Lightyear, Small World. Jungle Cruise is down to 30 mins which is the shortest I’ve seen in a long time. Epcot is a similar story with only Soarin’, Test Track and Frozen not posting 5-10 minute waits. This reminds me of patterns in the FP (not plus days) when evenings had manageable waits. It may just be a one off though. Are they not distributing LL in the same way in the evening?
 

jpchambana

New Member
Interestingly looking at wait times just now (so 8pm ET on Thanksgiving) in MK there were several attractions which are walk-on; HM, POTC, Buzz Lightyear, Small World. Jungle Cruise is down to 30 mins which is the shortest I’ve seen in a long time. Epcot is a similar story with only Soarin’, Test Track and Frozen not posting 5-10 minute waits. This reminds me of patterns in the FP (not plus days) when evenings had manageable waits. It may just be a one off though. Are they not distributing LL in the same way in the evening?
Scratch that - 14 rides/attractions (not meet and greets) are 5-10 minute waits right now in MK. This definitely suggests that LL is not being used in the evenings to the same extent.
 

JoeCamel

Well-Known Member
Interestingly looking at wait times just now (so 8pm ET on Thanksgiving) in MK there were several attractions which are walk-on; HM, POTC, Buzz Lightyear, Small World. Jungle Cruise is down to 30 mins which is the shortest I’ve seen in a long time. Epcot is a similar story with only Soarin’, Test Track and Frozen not posting 5-10 minute waits. This reminds me of patterns in the FP (not plus days) when evenings had manageable waits. It may just be a one off though. Are they not distributing LL in the same way in the evening?

Scratch that - 14 rides/attractions (not meet and greets) are 5-10 minute waits right now in MK. This definitely suggests that LL is not being used in the evenings to the same extent.
Thanksgiving is usually light, many do family rather than go to a park in the afternoon/night so all you get are onsite with many of those fighting for a meal in DS
 

Waters Back Side

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This morning SDD had intermittent availability up until 8:20 am. It took some refreshing but at 8:10 am there was availability for 2:40pm. At 7:23am there was availability for 10:20 am. At 7:12am it showed 3:30pm return time.

Same with Rise at 7:15am after times before it were much later, there was a 2:05 pm slot. At 7:23am it showed 4:10p. Rise also at 7:12 am showed 1:55pm. So if you stick with it (AGAIN I agree we should not have to do this) on your HS day for the an hour or so you'll get a slot. This assumes the Genie+ does not error out or tell you it's no longer available once you select it.
 

wdisney9000

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At 8:20 am 7DMT was showing 6:25 pm return time for $12.

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By 8:40 RoTR is gone and so is SDD

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Meant to post this am hour ago and my phone rang then I forgot.

Not sure exactly what time RoTR amd SDD "sold out" but not exactly good for off site guests to.get a chance to ride.
 

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