Disney Cruise Line and Oriental Land Co. Announce Year-Round Disney Cruises in Japan Starting 2029

JohnD

JohnD

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jme said:
Woah! Was not expecting that
It will be interesting to see what sorts of differences there are between DCL and OLC operated vessels
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For purposes of guests, I'm sure it will come under the DCL banner as far as registering and signing up for a cruise and using the cruise app during the cruise. It would really confuse things if the Japanese cruises with a Disney ship are not under the DCL banner, regardless of who runs the cruises in practice.
 
CaptainAmerica

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JohnD said:
For purposes of guests, I'm sure it will come under the DCL banner as far as registering and signing up for a cruise and using the cruise app during the cruise. It would really confuse things if the Japanese cruises with a Disney ship are not under the DCL banner, regardless of who runs the cruises in practice.
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I would be absolutely shocked if that's the case. I predict this will be entirely separate. The press release didn't even say "Disney Cruise Line." Not once.
 
JohnD

JohnD

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CaptainAmerica said:
I would be absolutely shocked if that's the case. I predict this will be entirely separate. The press release didn't even say "Disney Cruise Line." Not once.
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Okay. Just wondering because I think it would create confusion. All the average guest knows is Disney cruise ships and where they cruise. DCL goes to Europe, Australia and soon Asian Pacific but not Japan on the Adventure. But these cruises off Japan in a Disney named ship aren't branded under DCL? Look, I don't care how structured "underneath" but if the average DCL cruiser can't find Japan cruises on the DCL site, I would think it would over complicate things. Brand them as "Disney partner". I don't care. They should be featured on the one-stop DCL site.
 
JohnD

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cjkeating said:
Agree. I can't see this having any 'administrative' links to DCL.
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I'm not talking about "administrative" but it makes no sense not to provide Japan itineraries on the DCL site so that the Disney cruiser has a one stop location for finding Disney cruises. Show them as "Disney partner." I don't care.
 
BrianLo

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I think the OLC press release answers some of the above questions. Operationally it is a licensing of DCL. Paying for the ship, Management and operations are in fact being handled by OLC.

Though the OLC presser specifically goes on about Disney Cruises, a reflection of the current fleet and essentially the product that is a Disney Cruise. So I don't think an integrated booking relationship is entirely ruled out, nor do I think it is strong, either.

But it would be in both companies interest to have an integrated relationship, I'd imagine. Though quite tricky, because it is a licensed partnership and not a stake of DCL. I think the best solution would be to both run their own separate booking portals and software, but having some kick-back integration in booking abilities. And reciprocity in Castaway Club? But still staying arms length.

They are also spending 2 billion on this... but I must say there may be cruise terminal, booking, staffing costs rather than a flat 2 billion on just the ship. Hard to say what the breakdown is.
 
jme

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BrianLo said:

I think the OLC press release answers some of the above questions. Operationally it is a licensing of DCL. Paying for the ship, Management and operations are in fact being handled by OLC.

Though the OLC presser specifically goes on about Disney Cruises, a reflection of the current fleet and essentially the product that is a Disney Cruise. So I don't think an integrated booking relationship is entirely ruled out, nor do I think it is strong, either.

But it would be in both companies interest to have an integrated relationship, I'd imagine. Though quite tricky, because it is a licensed partnership and not a stake of DCL. I think the best solution would be to both run their own separate booking portals and software, but having some kick-back integration in booking abilities. And reciprocity in Castaway Club? But still staying arms length.

They are also spending 2 billion on this... but I must say there may be cruise terminal, booking, staffing costs rather than a flat 2 billion on just the ship. Hard to say what the breakdown is.
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I would certainly hope that just because a ship is operated by OLC, a Disney Cruise from Tokyo would still be linked to my Castaway Club membership benefits (i.e. maintained status and the cruise counting toward my level). As such I would then expect the booking process to be integrated, but it's not necessary.

I guess, at this point, only time will tell. We simply don't have enough information to go on at this point.
 
Robbiem

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Does anyone have any ideas where the new ship will cruise? Will it be able to leave Japanese waters and sail to destinations the main DCL goes to or will it have to keep to its own market? It would be interesting if there was a cruise to Hong Kong or Hawaii for example

I have no idea where cruise ships dock in Tokyo (I saw some in Yokohama but not Tokyo when I visited), but I assume the cruise port will be near TDR, again would DCL then use this as a port of call?

Interesting times ahead
 
cjkeating

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JohnD said:
I'm not talking about "administrative" but it makes no sense not to provide Japan itineraries on the DCL site so that the Disney cruiser has a one stop location for finding Disney cruises. Show them as "Disney partner." I don't care.
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99.9% of the cruisers on this ship are going to Japanese. They will all know to find the cruises via the Tokyo Disneyland website.

The cruise will be primarily Japanese. They'll accept English bookings but they won't have much interest in attracting guests who are non-Japanese speakers unless they are the niche who are non-Japanese speakers who visit TDL. You just have to look at how Tokyo Disneyland has been run since it opened...
jme said:
I would certainly hope that just because a ship is operated by OLC, a Disney Cruise from Tokyo would still be linked to my Castaway Club membership benefits (i.e. maintained status and the cruise counting toward my level). As such I would then expect the booking process to be integrated, but it's not necessary.

I guess, at this point, only time will tell. We simply don't have enough information to go on at this point.
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I don't foersee the OLC wanting to give perks to [mainly] American cruisers who are Castaway Club members which will impact on brand new Japanese cruisers having a disadvantage.

I'm willing to be shocked but I would be surprised if the Singapore cruises have some or any 'classic' Castaway Club perks... they may simply because it is a DCL run ship.
 
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maxairmike

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Robbiem said:
I have no idea where cruise ships dock in Tokyo (I saw some in Yokohama but not Tokyo when I visited), but I assume the cruise port will be near TDR, again would DCL then use this as a port of call?
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There’s the Tokyo International Cruise Terminal in Odaiba just a few metro stops away from TDR, which is what I would expect they’d use. Yokohama from what I understand is the typical cruise port for the Tokyo metro area. OLC could opt to build their own terminal, but I don’t think that’s as likely to happen unless they do something crazy like more land reclamation to add onto the existing resort landmass.

Based on the initial press release they will be doing short (3-4 day cruises I would guess) trips staying close to the Tokyo area. I could see them possibly going as far as Nagoya if that’s within the range of that short of a cruise. They could also be cruises to nowhere with a focus on Disney entertainment and activities on the ship.
 

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