DH said no more Disney World so I booked Disneyland instead!

[LuLaSue]

Yes, it is true! DH appreciates my love for the World but said no more WDW...for this year anyway. However, he did have a pretty magical counter offer.... Disneyland! I have never been and he thought it would be a fun idea to visit where it all began.

I admit, I am a bit lost, I know NOTHING about DL and I am ashamed to say this!
I am banking on some sound advice from my WDW Magic Friends!

Hotel Option:
Disney Land Hotel (Club Level)

Dates of travel:
February 14th (late night arrival)
February 18th (early morning flight)
This will give us 3 full days in the Disneyland and California Adventure parks. Enough time???

The very loose plan...

Day 1
February 15
California Adventure

Day 2
February 16
Disneyland Park

Day 3
February 17
Deciding if we need more time in the parks or Spa treatments in the Grand Californian...

Dining Reservations:
2/15 - Carthay Circle w/ World of Color
2/16 - Blue Bayou
2/17 - Storytellers Cafe

Any feedback on these eateries would be splendid...

 

[WED99]

First with the eateries, just letting you know you chose the two most expensive restaurants in the parks for your first 2 days. Prepare to drop some wallet weight and lose some time, but if fine dining is your thing then you made a good choice! DL is superior to WDW in dining due to the fact that good quality food and QS blend together perfectly. Places like Plaza Inn, Boardwalk Pizza/Pasta and Flo's V8 Cafe are personal favourites of mine for a quick and reasonably priced dinner.

Now the hotel, DL Hotel is my favourite on property! In my opinion it has the best pool, rooms and is fun to explore. The beds are soft, the TV's play in park music and DL nostalgia covers every corner. However, this all comes at a steep price. As I said earlier, if money isn't a problem then it comes highly recommended but keep in mind there are plenty of nice places in Anaheim that are close and cheap!

3 days is sufficient at DL if you are good at getting things done! Since you're familiar with WDW you shouldn't have a problem, but if possible I would recommend 4 days. You're going to need that 3rd Day for finishing the parks.

I hope I could be a help to you, I love sharing info about my favourite park! I'm absolutely certain you will have an absolutely amazing time (even with your current plan)

 

[LuLaSue]

First, Thanks so much for responding!

First with the eateries, just letting you know you chose the two most expensive restaurants in the parks for your first 2 days. Prepare to drop some wallet weight and lose some time, but if fine dining is your thing then you made a good choice! DL is superior to WDW in dining due to the fact that good quality food and QS blend together perfectly. Places like Plaza Inn, Boardwalk Pizza/Pasta and Flo's V8 Cafe are personal favourites of mine for a quick and reasonably priced dinner.

DH and I enjoy fine dining. We are 2 adults no kids, not really worried about dropping the coin especially on such a short trip. The time factor may be an issue for me but, DH likes this time to rest.

Now the hotel, DL Hotel is my favourite on property! In my opinion it has the best pool, rooms and is fun to explore. The beds are soft, the TV's play in park music and DL nostalgia covers every corner. However, this all comes at a steep price. As I said earlier, if money isn't a problem then it comes highly recommended but keep in mind there are plenty of nice places in Anaheim that are close and cheap!

I hear "staying on property" is not the same as it is in WDW but, I just can't to let go of the thought...I NEED TO BE ON PROPERTY... Silly, I am sure but, I am just going to run with it for this trip.

3 days is sufficient at DL if you are good at getting things done! Since you're familiar with WDW you shouldn't have a problem, but if possible I would recommend 4 days. You're going to need that 3rd Day for finishing the parks.

Air is booked so, 3 full days it is. DH has limited vacation time so I have to book around certain holidays and such. I checked touring plans, crowd levels look okay up until Sunday. Sunday looks horrific!!

I hope I could be a help to you, I love sharing info about my favourite park! I'm absolutely certain you will have an absolutely amazing time (even with your current plan)

Please share any tips and tricks you may have about touring and maybe about your favorite place to grab a snack?!? We are all about the food, but, I think you figured that out!

What concerns me is your comment "(even with your current plan)"....
Please explain, tell me more...
Is it that we are spending to much time eating..???

Thanks again!

 

[WED99]

When I said (even with your current plan) I was just assuring you that everything you had planned was fine, that's the beauty of DL. It's just so easy!

My favourite place to grab a snack is Hungry Bear Restaurant in Critter Country (next to Splash Mountain). It's just your average QS food but I love getting some sweet potato fries and sitting next to the Rivers of America, best chill spot in the park! Some touring tips:

-Try to do the things that are DL exclusive. So maybe skip Star Tours and try out Submarine Voyage instead. However, be sure to ride PotC as DL's version is superior.

-If you are a morning person, head to DCA just before opening and head straight to RSR's FastPass. It's easy to miss and if you do just wait until the end of the day when the queue dies down.

-After the RSR FastPass, get a World of Color FastPass next to GRR. If you don't have this you won't be able to enter the viewing area.

-Get to World Of Color 15-30 minutes before the show. This way you should be able to find a nice spot. Beware of young children with parents though, nothing worse than a kid on shoulders blocking your view!

-Take some time on Buena Vista Street. It is the most beautiful area DL has to offer and should not be wasted. The Red Car Trolley is a great way to explore!

That's all I can think of right now If you can handle WDW then DL is a breeze!

 

[LuLaSue]

When I said (even with your current plan) I was just assuring you that everything you had planned was fine, that's the beauty of DL. It's just so easy!

My favourite place to grab a snack is Hungry Bear Restaurant in Critter Country (next to Splash Mountain). It's just your average QS food but I love getting some sweet potato fries and sitting next to the Rivers of America, best chill spot in the park! Some touring tips:

-Try to do the things that are DL exclusive. So maybe skip Star Tours and try out Submarine Voyage instead. However, be sure to ride PotC as DL's version is superior.

-If you are a morning person, head to DCA just before opening and head straight to RSR's FastPass. It's easy to miss and if you do just wait until the end of the day when the queue dies down.

-After the RSR FastPass, get a World of Color FastPass next to GRR. If you don't have this you won't be able to enter the viewing area.

-Get to World Of Color 15-30 minutes before the show. This way you should be able to find a nice spot. Beware of young children with parents though, nothing worse than a kid on shoulders blocking your view!

-Take some time on Buena Vista Street. It is the most beautiful area DL has to offer and should not be wasted. The Red Car Trolley is a great way to explore!

That's all I can think of right now If you can handle WDW then DL is a breeze!

I really, really thank you!
Great stuff here!

 

[TP2000]

That weekend is President's Day Weekend, always a very busy holiday weekend. There is no school Monday and lots of Annual Passholders are unblocked on Sunday, so that will be a very busy day. However, the early morning hours and late night hours won't be as busy, owing to that most of the people there that day will be locals with AP's and they tend to visit for just four to six hours in the middle of the day. Sunday would be a GREAT day to book a mid afternoon spa session at the Grand Californian to get away from the holiday crowds. Plan to do some things late in the parks on Sunday (the second performance of Fantasmic! at 10:30PM with the Dessert Buffet?), use the Fastpass system, and you should be fine as Disney veterans.

As for Storytellers Cafe'. it's nice and pleasant, as sort of the mid-range coffee shop in the Grand Californian. But what about something a little more stylish or special? If you want to swing for the fences, you could have dinner at Napa Rose at the Grand, widely known as one of the best restaurants in the global Disney empire and certainly one of the best restaurants in Orange County.

If you don't want to spend Carthay Circle type money for a second dinner at Napa Rose, how about Catal in Downtown Disney? It's a five minute stroll around the corner from Storytellers or Napa Rose, and I have always had great success there for very good Continental-California cuisine with good service in a stylish environment. And their balconies and big windows out onto Downtown Disney have perfect views of the Disneyland fireworks. Catal is a notch higher in price than Storytellers, but a notch below Napa Rose.

Fireworks above Downtown Disney from Catal balcony

One thing I think any Disneyland first-timer needs to do is go to Yahoo or Google maps and look at the property in the aerial satellite view! It will ground you better on how close everything is, and how you will be walking distance from everything. You need to throw out everything you know about "Disney" from your WDW visits, as Disneyland is a different breed altogether in size and scope and offerings.

 

[TP2000]

There's another important topic here besides restaurants and dessert buffets and spa visits.... RIDES!

You will want to do some rides, right? Be prepared to have to skip many rides and attractions in your three days as there are about as many rides and attractions in the two Anaheim parks combined as there are in the four WDW parks combined. Disneyland especially has an abundance of good, old-fashioned, Walt Disney style RIDES.

I just posted this rundown in another thread here for someone trying to visit both parks in one long day, but I think it's valid so I'll cut and paste in case you didn't see it.

There are nearly as many attractions in both Disneyland Resort parks as there are in all four WDW parks combined. Luckily for you, a lot of these rides were cloned at WDW and you can skip some of the big ones that are direct clones.

Here's a list of attractions that are exclusive to Disneyland Resort, or that you at least won't find at WDW, listed from big to small using the old ticket system:

E Tickets
Indiana Jones Adventure - Disneyland
Matterhorn Bobsleds - Disneyland
Radiator Springs Racers - DCA
Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage - Disneyland
California Screamin' - DCA
Grizzly River Run - DCA (similar to Kali River, but several minutes longer and themed differently)

D Tickets
Sailing Ship Columbia - Disneyland (only ship running this winter due to Mark Twain rehab)
Davy Crockett Explorer Canoes (only runs weekends in winter)
Storybook Land Canal Boats - Disneyland
Redwood Creek Challenge Trail - DCA
Pirate's Lair on Tom Sawyer Island - Disneyland
Goofy's Sky School - DCA
Animation Pavilion - DCA (Turtle Talk clone inside, but also unique other shows/exhibits inside)

C Tickets
Pinnochio's Daring Journey - Disneyland
Mr. Toad's Wild Ride - Disneyland
Snow White's Scary Adventures - Disneyland (closed for good last year at WDW)
Alice In Wonderland - Disneyland
Roger Rabbit's Car Toon Spin - Disneyland
Monsters Inc. Mike & Sulley To The Rescue! - DCA
Casey Jr. Circus Train - Disneyland
Mickey's Fun Wheel - DCA
Tuck & Roll's Drive 'Em Buggies - DCA
Luigi's Flying Tires - DCA
Mater's Junkyard Jamboree - DCA
Red Car Trolley - DCA

B Tickets
Tarzan's Treehouse - Disneyland
Golden Zephyr - DCA
Silly Symphony Swings - DCA
Jumpin' Jellyfish - DCA
Flik's Flyers - DCA
Francis' Ladybug Boogie - DCA
Heimlich's Chew Chew Train - DCA

A Tickets
Sleeping Beauty Castle Walkthrough - Disneyland
Blue Sky Cellar - DCA
Big Thunder Ranch Petting Zoo - Disneyland
Boudin Bakery Tour - DCA
Main Street Cinema - Disneyland
Disney Gallery - Disneyland

Many of the B Tickets are simple spinner rides you can skip. But research the ones that interest you, especially the E Tickets and dark rides, and try to fit in as many as you can.

Then consider doing some of the cloned rides that are superior at Disneyland. Pirates is the obvious choice here, but Jungle Cruise, Small World, Space Mountain, Buzz Lightyear, and Peter Pan's Flight are all either noticeably longer, different, or more advanced than the WDW versions. Tower of Terror, Haunted Mansion, Winnie The Pooh, and Splash Mountain are generally thought to be inferior at Disneyland for one artistic or technical reason or another, and can be skipped unless you are a big fan of said ride or the line is short. Or you just want to see what the differences are that people talk about on the Internet!

 

[Cosmic Commando]

One thing I think any Disneyland first-timer needs to do is go to Yahoo or Google maps and look at the property in the aerial satellite view! It will ground you better on how close everything is, and how you will be walking distance from everything. You need to throw out everything you know about "Disney" from your WDW visits, as Disneyland is a different breed altogether in size and scope and offerings.

Nah. Don't throw out everything you know about WDW. Just think of DLR as being a little like Epcot... crammed full of rides.

At the Disneyland Hotel, you'll be about as far away from the parks as Yacht Club or maybe the Boardwalk Villas are from the International Gateway. That's the Disneyland Hotel between where it says "Downtown Disney" on the map and the zoom bar (you can see the little blue pool). So it's a short walk and Downtown Disney runs basically the entire length between the hotel and the parks. They just opened an Earl of Sandwich out there, if you're looking for a smaller meal. Park hopping isn't hopping on the bus/boat/monorail like at WDW; instead, it's more like going from Future World to World Showcase. So I've been saying to think of DLR as the Epcot area with as many rides as all of WDW.

 

[Cosmic Commando]

I hear "staying on property" is not the same as it is in WDW but, I just can't to let go of the thought...I NEED TO BE ON PROPERTY... Silly, I am sure but, I am just going to run with it for this trip.

It's not as important to stay on property as it is at WDW, but you can totally have a similar experience. You can totally stay on property the whole time and basically never see the outside world. You *might* see a regular old city street walking between the hotel and the parks, but it is absolutely not an urban wasteland like some people make you believe. The resort district has really beautiful landscaping. This picture was taken from on top of the parking garage looking towards the parks:

Downtown Disney actually goes over that street there in the picture, so you will walk by when you walk from the hotel to the parks; it's hidden well enough that I didn't even realize until I read about it online after I had already been there! The only places you get a real solid look at the outside world are on California Screamin' and from the Monorail. Other than that, it's pretty easy to be immersed in the Disney full-time.

As far as snacks, the only places that jump out at me off the top of my head are the Cozy Cone in Cars Land and Bengal Barbecue in Adventureland. Nice kabobs at Bengal and things like flavored popcorn, pretzel bites, and lots of specialty drinks at the cones. Also, you can take your Dole Whips into the Tiki Room. There's soup in a bread bowl. There's free chocolate handed out at the Ghirardelli shop. The famous Disneyland corn dog. Other than that, there's all the staples.

 

[LuLaSue]

There's another important topic here besides restaurants and dessert buffets and spa visits.... RIDES!

You will want to do some rides, right? Be prepared to have to skip many rides and attractions in your three days as there are about as many rides and attractions in the two Anaheim parks combined as there are in the four WDW parks combined. Disneyland especially has an abundance of good, old-fashioned, Walt Disney style RIDES.

I just posted this rundown in another thread here for someone trying to visit both parks in one long day, but I think it's valid so I'll cut and paste in case you didn't see it.

There are nearly as many attractions in both Disneyland Resort parks as there are in all four WDW parks combined. Luckily for you, a lot of these rides were cloned at WDW and you can skip some of the big ones that are direct clones.

Here's a list of attractions that are exclusive to Disneyland Resort, or that you at least won't find at WDW, listed from big to small using the old ticket system:

E Tickets
Indiana Jones Adventure - Disneyland
Matterhorn Bobsleds - Disneyland
Radiator Springs Racers - DCA
Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage - Disneyland
California Screamin' - DCA
Grizzly River Run - DCA (similar to Kali River, but several minutes longer and themed differently)

D Tickets
Sailing Ship Columbia - Disneyland (only ship running this winter due to Mark Twain rehab)
Davy Crockett Explorer Canoes (only runs weekends in winter)
Storybook Land Canal Boats - Disneyland
Redwood Creek Challenge Trail - DCA
Pirate's Lair on Tom Sawyer Island - Disneyland
Goofy's Sky School - DCA
Animation Pavilion - DCA (Turtle Talk clone inside, but also unique other shows/exhibits inside)

C Tickets
Pinnochio's Daring Journey - Disneyland
Mr. Toad's Wild Ride - Disneyland
Snow White's Scary Adventures - Disneyland (closed for good last year at WDW)
Alice In Wonderland - Disneyland
Roger Rabbit's Car Toon Spin - Disneyland
Monsters Inc. Mike & Sulley To The Rescue! - DCA
Casey Jr. Circus Train - Disneyland
Mickey's Fun Wheel - DCA
Tuck & Roll's Drive 'Em Buggies - DCA
Luigi's Flying Tires - DCA
Mater's Junkyard Jamboree - DCA
Red Car Trolley - DCA

B Tickets
Tarzan's Treehouse - Disneyland
Golden Zephyr - DCA
Silly Symphony Swings - DCA
Jumpin' Jellyfish - DCA
Flik's Flyers - DCA
Francis' Ladybug Boogie - DCA
Heimlich's Chew Chew Train - DCA

A Tickets
Sleeping Beauty Castle Walkthrough - Disneyland
Blue Sky Cellar - DCA
Big Thunder Ranch Petting Zoo - Disneyland
Boudin Bakery Tour - DCA
Main Street Cinema - Disneyland
Disney Gallery - Disneyland

Many of the B Tickets are simple spinner rides you can skip. But research the ones that interest you, especially the E Tickets and dark rides, and try to fit in as many as you can.

Then consider doing some of the cloned rides that are superior at Disneyland. Pirates is the obvious choice here, but Jungle Cruise, Small World, Space Mountain, Buzz Lightyear, and Peter Pan's Flight are all either noticeably longer, different, or more advanced than the WDW versions. Tower of Terror, Haunted Mansion, Winnie The Pooh, and Splash Mountain are generally thought to be inferior at Disneyland for one artistic or technical reason or another, and can be skipped unless you are a big fan of said ride or the line is short. Or you just want to see what the differences are that people talk about on the Internet!

YES! RIDES!! This is awesome! Thanks for the breakdown!

 

[LuLaSue]

It's not as important to stay on property as it is at WDW, but you can totally have a similar experience. You can totally stay on property the whole time and basically never see the outside world. You *might* see a regular old city street walking between the hotel and the parks, but it is absolutely not an urban wasteland like some people make you believe. The resort district has really beautiful landscaping. This picture was taken from on top of the parking garage looking towards the parks:

Downtown Disney actually goes over that street there in the picture, so you will walk by when you walk from the hotel to the parks; it's hidden well enough that I didn't even realize until I read about it online after I had already been there! The only places you get a real solid look at the outside world are on California Screamin' and from the Monorail. Other than that, it's pretty easy to be immersed in the Disney full-time.

As far as snacks, the only places that jump out at me off the top of my head are the Cozy Cone in Cars Land and Bengal Barbecue in Adventureland. Nice kabobs at Bengal and things like flavored popcorn, pretzel bites, and lots of specialty drinks at the cones. Also, you can take your Dole Whips into the Tiki Room. There's soup in a bread bowl. There's free chocolate handed out at the Ghirardelli shop. The famous Disneyland corn dog. Other than that, there's all the staples.

Thank you! I am glad we decided to stay on property! It looks like nothing I expected.

 

[LuLaSue]

That weekend is President's Day Weekend, always a very busy holiday weekend. There is no school Monday and lots of Annual Passholders are unblocked on Sunday, so that will be a very busy day. However, the early morning hours and late night hours won't be as busy, owing to that most of the people there that day will be locals with AP's and they tend to visit for just four to six hours in the middle of the day. Sunday would be a GREAT day to book a mid afternoon spa session at the Grand Californian to get away from the holiday crowds. Plan to do some things late in the parks on Sunday (the second performance of Fantasmic! at 10:30PM with the Dessert Buffet?), use the Fastpass system, and you should be fine as Disney veterans.

As for Storytellers Cafe'. it's nice and pleasant, as sort of the mid-range coffee shop in the Grand Californian. But what about something a little more stylish or special? If you want to swing for the fences, you could have dinner at Napa Rose at the Grand, widely known as one of the best restaurants in the global Disney empire and certainly one of the best restaurants in Orange County.

If you don't want to spend Carthay Circle type money for a second dinner at Napa Rose, how about Catal in Downtown Disney? It's a five minute stroll around the corner from Storytellers or Napa Rose, and I have always had great success there for very good Continental-California cuisine with good service in a stylish environment. And their balconies and big windows out onto Downtown Disney have perfect views of the Disneyland fireworks. Catal is a notch higher in price than Storytellers, but a notch below Napa Rose.

Fireworks above Downtown Disney from Catal balcony

One thing I think any Disneyland first-timer needs to do is go to Yahoo or Google maps and look at the property in the aerial satellite view! It will ground you better on how close everything is, and how you will be walking distance from everything. You need to throw out everything you know about "Disney" from your WDW visits, as Disneyland is a different breed altogether in size and scope and offerings.

Catal?!? Looks beautiful! I am going to check out the menu!

The chickpea Croquettes look amazing!

 

[TRIFORCE89]

Having just been to Disneyland for my first time, probably the best thing I did was the single riders line for Radiator Springs Racers. The stand-by line was over two hours at the time, and the FastPass line pretty sizeable too. But the single rider line? 20 minutes. And two of us still managed to ride together in the same car (that's probably unlikely though. More likely, you'll be just one car apart. Maybe even racing each other). Rode it twice. Huge time saver.

 

[TP2000]

It's not as important to stay on property as it is at WDW, but you can totally have a similar experience. You can totally stay on property the whole time and basically never see the outside world. You *might* see a regular old city street walking between the hotel and the parks, but it is absolutely not an urban wasteland like some people make you believe. The resort district has really beautiful landscaping. This picture was taken from on top of the parking garage looking towards the parks:

Great picture!

For those wondering what they're looking at....
In the foreground is the four-station tram loading area where trams pick up and drop off for the 5 minute ride to the park main entrance plaza from the 10,000 space Mickey & Friends Parking Structure. In the midground is Disneyland Drive, which connects directly to Interstate 5 about a third of a mile north of this photo. Off to the left, that tan building poking up above the tree line is the warehouse building for The Many Adventures of Winnie The Pooh on the backside of Critter Country. Splash Mountain is next door, but hid entirely by the trees from this view. Middle of the shot in the background is the rooftops of the Grand Californian Hotel, plus the tops of California Screamin' and Mickey's Fun Wheel in Paradise Pier, with the Anaheim Convention Center and Anaheim Hilton beyond across Katella Avenue. The tall building on the right side of the photo is the Paradise Pier Hotel. The Disneyland Hotel towers are just out of the shot on the right edge of the photo.

You can walk from one end of the property to the other in 20 minutes at a strolling pace, 15 minutes if you hustle. Along the way you'd pass by 60+ rides and attractions spread across two parks, two different parades, two different nighttime water shows, fireworks, dozens of restaurants and shops, the Downtown Disney entertainment mall, and three Disney owned hotels with 3,000 hotel rooms.

 

[TP2000]

Nah. Don't throw out everything you know about WDW. Just think of DLR as being a little like Epcot... crammed full of rides.

Okay, fine, maybe don't throw out everything. But be prepared for a different type of Disney experience.

That's a fantastic picture comparison above! It illustrates beautifully what's available in Anaheim and how close it all is. Thank you for posting it.

 

[KeithVH]

Definitely do Napa Rose regardless of any other meal. ALWAYS worth every penny. To me, Catal is a good second choice. But so is Steak 55. Both breakfast and dinner. Steaks and eggs is killer there. That kind of a breakfast in the parks, on white linen and china, is a great way to start the day. Blue Bayou is not bad but I always find the menu limited and service is either great or just so-so. Hit and miss there. Storytellers is OK but we do'nt go out of our way to get there. Not with Downtown right there and places like Ralph Brennan's available.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

I would throw in my two cents and say do Napa Rose over Carthay Circle - the food and service are far superior for the same price. It's an easy walk to it from within DCA as well. In fact, I'd go to Catal before I'd ever go to Carthay Circle again (downstairs lounge notwithstanding).

 

[LuLaSue]

Oh Boy! Now I am confused!

I think we are going to keep the Blue Bayou. I knew the menu was limited but, wanted to try it because of the location and the ease of staying in the park.

I am calling today to switch out Story Teller Cafe for Catal for sure.

Now my only reason for picking Carthay Circle over Napa Rose is because I wanted to stay inside the park (there is that WDW planning again). With time being sorta an issue...Is Napa Rose a long walk from DCA? How much MORE time will I be giving up?

Again, I thank you all for your input!

 

[TP2000]

Now my only reason for picking Carthay Circle over Napa Rose is because I wanted to stay inside the park (there is that WDW planning again). With time being sorta an issue...Is Napa Rose a long walk from DCA? How much MORE time will I be giving up?

Again, I thank you all for your input!

From Grizzly River Run or Soarin' Over California, the walk to Napa Rose will take about two minutes. 90 seconds if you have longer legs.

The walk from Carthay Circle to Napa Rose would take about three minutes, maybe four if you stop to watch the rafts splashing down over the waterfall at Grizzly River Run.

The patio and windows of Napa Rose look directly out to Grizzly River Run. In this photo below you can see the grizzly bear mountain, and the entry bridge from DCA into the Grand Californian is that brick structure below the trees. From the Grizzly River Run Fastpass machines to the entry doors of Napa Rose it's probably a 50 yard walk over that bridge and around the corner inside the hotel. Get your hand stamped and you can re-enter DCA during park hours after your meal just by reversing your steps.

I often sneak off to the Napa Rose Lounge for a cocktail and a snack in the late afternoon. It's a quieter, easier place to hang out than most of the bars or restaurants in the park itself.

 

[LuLaSue]

Stunning View!

I will let you all know what I decide. I have to review menus with DH. He is a carnivore and I am a vegetarian. So far there has been something intereting on each menu as a vegetarian option but, I want to see what I may really want to try!