Crowds are Insanely Busy - Why?

[Nick Wilde]

are you really trying to tell me there is no difference in disposable income from 2008 economy and the 2015 economy. In 2008 I would not have evn considered blowing money to go to Disney , I've been here twice this year..

Yes. From 2008 to 2015, the average annual income only fluctuated between $50,000 and $55,000.

 

[POLY LOVER]

Yes. From 2008 to 2015, the average annual income only fluctuated between $50,000 and $55,000.

You are not factoring in the unemployment rate. Salary means nothing if you don,t have a job or are in fear of being laid off. I,m talking about people who have jobs now that are not afraid to spend money

 

[Dukeblue1227]

You are not factoring in the unemployment rate. Salary means nothing if you don,t have a job or are in fear of being laid off. I,m talking about people who have jobs now that are not afraid to spend money

Before the market crashed people weren't afraid of losing their jobs though the same way they are today and have been the last 7 years. The unemployment rate is about the same as it was at that time as well. What the unemployment rate doesn't tell us is people who aren't even looking for jobs which is considered to be much higher now than it was in 2008 after years of unsuccessfully finding jobs they've given up.

The fact you couldn't dream of going in 2008 and went twice this year isn't an adequate sample size. There's more than enough people in the exact opposite scenario. All we can work with is the data we have which suggests with inflation taken into consideration today's economy is not better than 2008s pre crash.

 

[Nick Wilde]

You are not factoring in the unemployment rate. Salary means nothing if you don,t have a job or are in fear of being laid off. I,m talking about people who have jobs now that are not afraid to spend money

I don't think anyone knows what the unemployment rate is. Every number I've seen ranges from 15% to 3%.

 

[WondersOfLife]

Animal Kingdom is completely empty after around 5 PM... Even in July!

 

[Lucky]

I don't think anyone knows what the unemployment rate is. Every number I've seen ranges from 15% to 3%.

The official rate is 5.3%. The BLS also reports a 2nd number that adds in the people who say they'd like to work, but officially aren't in the labor force because they haven't looked for a job in the last 4 weeks. That rate is 10.5%.

Like anything based on surveys no one knows exactly what either number really is. But they're large surveys using the same methods every month so it's as accurate as you can reasonably get.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Animal Kingdom is completely empty after around 5 PM... Even in July!

And after 5 is the best time to go to DAK in the summer....

 

[Figgy1]

And after 5 is the best time to go to DAK in the summer....

^^^^^^ THIS

 

[LieutLaww]

I have noticed here in the UK both Disney and Universal are really pushing their adverts on TV for Florida trip, and also the UK gets very favourable packages. I am also coming over again this year, partly to see Diagon but also because I just need to get away for a couple of weeks.

 

[POLY LOVER]

You must agree that things are better economy wise now than they were 9 years ago. Every economy measure is better now housing, car sales, commercial building, gas prices, jobs, if you can,t admit that then I have to assume you are just being political.

 

[Seanual757]

In General Disney has been extremely since last year, we normally go a 3-4 times a month two weeks ago when we arrived at 7pm it was a madhouse, this past Friday pretty dead 7DMT 50 min wait, vs. the normal 90+.

 

[Texas84]

Sigh, instead of getting into it I just used the ignore button, like Steve says.

 

[POLY LOVER]

why argue about this stuff the bottom line is the parks are busier than ever and it takes a good bit of money to go to the parks. So people have the money to spend, you can argue about where they got it or why they want to spend it at Disney vs. some other life need.

 

[NelsonRD]

I would argue this is not specific to Walt Disney World. It seems everywhere is busier than a few years in the past. I was at Niagara Falls on a Wednesday, mid week, and it was the busiest I have ever seen it. Boat tours, and tunnel tours were scheduled for the evening by mid morning bookings. A few weeks ago in DC, metro trains were full, crowds at the museums seemed much larger, and look longer to visit. NYC times square recently was a zoo too. I think the amount of foreign travelers is significant.

 

[Matt_Black]

Well, the economy IS better, at least somewhat. Certainly, the Dow Average ain't hurting.

 

[POLY LOVER]

Well, the economy IS better, at least somewhat. Certainly, the Dow Average ain't hurting.

I mean we were on the brink of collapse, banks, jobs, real estate, I just don't get how someone can say its basically the same as it was 8 years ago. The only way is if you were in a coma during that time. I know politics plays a role in some opinions so I'll beg out at this point. What was the Disney stock price back then and what is it now?

 

[TXDisney]

For me my whole life I've only gone to WDW at low season. As an adult it's easy obviously without kids. But even as a kid my parents never let us take off pointless days during the school year bc they knew we did a week in disney every year. So my advice for people with kids is still to go offseason, just don't let your kids off school much besides that trip.