Consensus E-Tickets At the 4 Major Parks

[Chef Mickey]

I wanted to get a list of what we believe are the Consensus E-Tickets at each Park and how many of those have been since Iger took over in late 2005.

Magic Kingdom

• Space Mountain
• Thunder Mountain
• Splash Mountain
• The Haunted Mansion
• Pirates of the Caribbean
• The Hall of Presidents
• Small World
• Jungle Cruise

EPCOT

• Test Track
• Mission Space
• Spaceship Earth
• Soarin'
• The American Adventure

DHS

• Tower of Terror
• Rock "N" Rollercoaster
• Star Tours (Questionable)

Animal Kingdom

• Kilimanjaro Safaris
• Expedition Everest
• Flight of Passage (Iger)
• Dinosaur (Questionable)

What would you change? Am I missing obvious ones or are there any you'd absolutely remove? I count 1 what I believe to be a consensus E-Ticket since Iger took over. I consider Midway Mania, Jungle Cruise, 7DMT, Slinky, Na'vi, and Kali River Rapids D Ticket attractions.

 

[JIMINYCR]

E ticket status was once reserved for the best, the more thrilling, the most coveted rides. Using that as my basis, I'm not sure I would count IASW as what I'd rate as an E ticket attraction. And HoP and AA although entertaining shows, very popular and ones I love, I wouldnt necessarily count as E tickets. I agree with the others... but ST and Dino would not be questionable on my list, theyd count as E tickets..

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I wanted to get a list of what we believe are the Consensus E-Tickets at each Park and how many of those have been since Iger took over in late 2005.

Magic Kingdom

• Space Mountain
• Thunder Mountain
• Splash Mountain
• The Haunted Mansion
• Pirates of the Caribbean
• The Hall of Presidents
• Small World

EPCOT

• Test Track
• Mission Space
• Spaceship Earth
• Soarin'
• The American Adventure

DHS

• Tower of Terror
• Rock "N" Rollercoaster
• Star Tours (Questionable)

Animal Kingdom

• Kilimanjaro Safaris
• Expedition Everest
• Flight of Passage (Iger)
• Dinosaur (Questionable)

What would you change? Am I missing obvious ones or are there any you'd absolutely remove? I count 1 what I believe to be a consensus E-Ticket since Iger took over. I consider Midway Mania, Jungle Cruise, 7DMT, Slinky, Na'vi, and Kali River Rapids D Ticket attractions.

Remove Hall of Presidents, Small World, Spaceship Earth, American Adventure, Star Tours, and Dinosaur IMO. Add Mine Train.

 

[geekza]

Small World is absolutely an E Ticket for several reasons: It's original. It's lengthy. It has a unique design aesthetic that is present in every AA, set piece, and prop.

Hall of Presidents has 43, highly-detailed, robot presidents and incredible emotional impact.

Spaceship Earth is a massive trip through time with each scene packed with detail and beautiful staging. It is the definition of E Ticket.

American Adventure is a wonder of engineering and technology.

7DMT is a C Ticket that, for some reason, people love. Still, one incredible show scene does not an E Ticket make.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

Small World is absolutely an E Ticket for several reasons: It's original. It's lengthy. It has a unique design aesthetic that is present in every AA, set piece, and prop.

Hall of Presidents has 43, highly-detailed, robot presidents and incredible emotional impact.

Spaceship Earth is a massive trip through time with each scene packed with detail and beautiful staging. It is the definition of E Ticket.

American Adventure is a wonder of engineering and technology.

7DMT is a C Ticket that, for some reason, people love. Still, one incredible show scene does not an E Ticket make.

Wouldn't the public's perception of a ride determine it's status? For instance, 7DMT is beloved. Why would that not automatically it an E-ticket?

 

[justintheharris]

I wanted to get a list of what we believe are the Consensus E-Tickets at each Park and how many of those have been since Iger took over in late 2005.

Magic Kingdom

• Space Mountain
• Thunder Mountain
• Splash Mountain
• The Haunted Mansion
• Pirates of the Caribbean
• The Hall of Presidents
• Small World

EPCOT

• Test Track
• Mission Space
• Spaceship Earth
• Soarin'
• The American Adventure

DHS

• Tower of Terror
• Rock "N" Rollercoaster
• Star Tours (Questionable)

Animal Kingdom

• Kilimanjaro Safaris
• Expedition Everest
• Flight of Passage (Iger)
• Dinosaur (Questionable)

What would you change? Am I missing obvious ones or are there any you'd absolutely remove? I count 1 what I believe to be a consensus E-Ticket since Iger took over. I consider Midway Mania, Jungle Cruise, 7DMT, Slinky, Na'vi, and Kali River Rapids D Ticket attractions.

Spaceship Earth is not an E Ticket. The American Adventure isn't either. I would also consider Toy Story Midway Mania and Seven Dwarfs Mine Train E ticket attractions. It's hard to judge these things because as technology develops, we must update our standards for an E Ticket. It's A Small World, The Haunted Mansion, Pirates of the Caribbean and Hall of Presidents are not E Ticket rides in my book.

 

[geekza]

Wouldn't the public's perception of a ride determine it's status? For instance, 7DMT is beloved. Why would that not automatically it an E-ticket?

Public perception plays some part, certainly, but the Tomorrowland Speedway is still popular nearly 50 years later and I don't think that anyone would argue that it's an E Ticket. E Ticket implies a certain level of detailed experience that shows in every aspect of the attraction. They're attractions where the Imagineers went the extra mile to "plus" every element to create an immersive experience that is unique. 7DMT feels like a planned E Ticket that was a victim of compromise.

 

[justintheharris]

Small World is absolutely an E Ticket for several reasons: It's original. It's lengthy. It has a unique design aesthetic that is present in every AA, set piece, and prop.

Hall of Presidents has 43, highly-detailed, robot presidents and incredible emotional impact.

Spaceship Earth is a massive trip through time with each scene packed with detail and beautiful staging. It is the definition of E Ticket.

American Adventure is a wonder of engineering and technology.

7DMT is a C Ticket that, for some reason, people love. Still, one incredible show scene does not an E Ticket make.

Well just remember that, as E Tickets don't actually exist anymore and as technology develops, it's difficult to form a consensus on what qualifies as an E Ticket. The definition of an E Ticket needs to change to maintain its relevance. Is Flight of Passage or Space Mountain not an E Ticket ride because there's no real show scenes or animatronics?

 

[geekza]

Spaceship Earth is not an E Ticket. The American Adventure isn't either. I would also consider Toy Story Midway Mania and Seven Dwarfs Mine Train E ticket attractions. It's hard to judge these things because as technology develops, we must update our standards for an E Ticket. It's A Small World, The Haunted Mansion, Pirates of the Caribbean and Hall of Presidents are not E Ticket rides in my book.

That's where we disagree. Technology is only a tool. The overall experience is more important than the tools used to create it.

 

[geekza]

Well just remember that, as E Tickets don't actually exist anymore and as technology develops, it's difficult to form a consensus on what qualifies as an E Ticket. The definition of an E Ticket needs to change to maintain its relevance. Is Flight of Passage or Space Mountain not an E Ticket ride because there's no real show scenes or animatronics?

I give up. We're looking at the designation from two completely different viewpoints.

 

[justintheharris]

That's where we disagree. Technology is only a tool. The overall experience is more important than the tools used to create it.

Yes but technology has an impact. Take Matterhorn Bobsleds in Disneyland as an example. I'm sorry, that track is outdated and painful and, by today's standards, is ruining the experience for many. One may consider it an E Ticket but if someone didn't, I wouldn't argue with them. I would see the window.

 

[justintheharris]

I give up. We're looking at the designation from two completely different viewpoints.

There's no need to be so heated over the topic. It's okay to disagree. I simply believe that it's not very logical to say "once an E ticket always an E ticket."

 

[Mickey5150]

Considering most people on this forum probably never used a ticket at WDW it's probably time to rate them another way.

 

[justintheharris]

Remove Hall of Presidents, Small World, Spaceship Earth, American Adventure, Star Tours, and Dinosaur IMO. Add Mine Train.

With the update of the sequence changes for Star Tours, I personally would be willing to call that an E Ticket attraction.

 

[geekza]

There's no need to be so heated over the topic. It's okay to disagree. I simply believe that it's not very logical to say "once an E ticket always an E ticket."

I'm not heated, I just think that we're coming from two different directions. You're right that there's no clear definition of an E Ticket. What I feel defines an E Ticket is not what others may feel is appropriate criteria. I could just see that the discussion wasn't really going to go anywhere, so that's why I typed what I did. It was nothing personal, I assure you.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Wouldn't the public's perception of a ride determine it's status? For instance, 7DMT is beloved. Why would that not automatically it an E-ticket?

I should be in any other universe other then Disney. Pretty much all the people that originally determined the criteria used to determine an E are either dead or drowling on themselves.

The new crop of fan are singularly making that determination based on individual likes not any official list anywhere. Some of the early E's included the Tiki Room and The Country bears. Since the early E tickets were really a graduated pricing system, it would stand to reason that it would be based on First what the imagineers thought would constitute a very popular ride that people would be willing to pay extra to see. Thus the different tickets in the books with the fewest being what they considered to be the largest draw or the most popular, if you will. No money was ever made by basing the attractions by strictly what they thought was personally the best one to them.

So if they seriously used the E ticket system today in MK for example they would be based on popularity or how many clicks the admission counter made.

PoTC
Splash Mtn.
Big Thunder Mtn.
Haunted Mansion
Space Mtn.
7 DMT
and possible Buzz Lightyear, but, I think those 6 would take top ranking.

 

[justintheharris]

I should be in any other universe other then Disney. Pretty much all the people that originally determined the criteria used to determine an E are either dead or drowling on themselves.

The new crop of fan are singularly making that determination based on individual likes not any official list anywhere. Some of the early E's included the Tiki Room and The Country bears. Since the early E tickets were really a graduated pricing system, it would stand to reason that it would be based on First what the imagineers thought would constitute a very popular ride that people would be willing to pay extra to see. Thus the different tickets in the books with the fewest being what they considered to be the largest draw or the most popular, if you will. No money was ever made by basing the attractions by strictly what they thought was personally the best one to them.

So if they seriously used the E ticket system today in MK for example they would be based on popularity or how many clicks the admission counter made.

PoTC
Splash Mtn.
Big Thunder Mtn.
Haunted Mansion
7 DMT
and possible Buzz Lightyear, but, I think those 5 would take top ranking.

Space Mountain would be more appropriately placed in the top 5 than Pirates or Haunted Mansion. Not that I don't love either of those rides but they aren't really attracting massive crowds the way the three mountains and the mine train are. Though you do make a good point about it was a PRICING system above anything and therefore it should be classified based on what imagineers think people would most want to see. With that in mind, Frozen Ever After may very well be considered E ticket (or at least was for a year or two) even though I've always seen it as a C ticket dark ride.

 

[Goofyernmost]

Space Mountain would be more appropriately placed in the top 5 than Pirates or Haunted Mansion. Not that I don't love either of those rides but they aren't really attracting massive crowds the way the three mountains and the mine train are. Though you do make a good point about it was a PRICING system above anything and therefore it should be classified based on what imagineers think people would most want to see. With that in mind, Frozen Ever After may very well be considered E ticket (or at least was for a year or two) even though I've always seen it as a C ticket dark ride.

You are correct, I accidentally left out Space Mtn. (corrected now) so those would be my choice for top 6 E's.

 

[Damon7777]

Wouldn't the public's perception of a ride determine it's status? For instance, 7DMT is beloved. Why would that not automatically it an E-ticket?

not at all

Overall love or hate for an attraction has nothing to do with it. Budgets, size, scope of the attraction determine status.

Disney, with an eager Eisner, back in the 90's positioned Alien Encounter as an E but too many guests weren't amused.

Half of mankind looked to queue up to Midway Mania early on(yes, sorry about the small exaggeration) but yet Disney acknowledged the attraction was a D like offering.

 

[Chef Mickey]

Spaceship Earth is not an E Ticket. The American Adventure isn't either. I would also consider Toy Story Midway Mania and Seven Dwarfs Mine Train E ticket attractions. It's hard to judge these things because as technology develops, we must update our standards for an E Ticket. It's A Small World, The Haunted Mansion, Pirates of the Caribbean and Hall of Presidents are not E Ticket rides in my book.

I really disagree with every one of your assessments, respectfully.

Pirates and HM are E-Tickets. Theming, detail, queues, pre show in Mansion, re-rideability.

Midway Mania is bordering E-Ticket, but it's essentially a screen ride...not a lot of detail or ambition.

Spaceship Earth is an E-Ticket for the same reason HM is an E-Ticket. The detail, the amount of Animatronics, the story, theme, etc.

The American Adventure is TOTALLY an E-Ticket. The amount of engineering in that show, the music, the story, all the animatronic figures. Just for how it works, it's an E-Ticket. The budget was something like $60M in the 1980s. Same with Presidents.