Comparing Disneyland and Walt Disney World (very long)

docandsix

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The family and I just returned from a long weekend trip to Disneyland for the Half-Marathon. Having completed the "Coast to Coast Challenge," we've now seen both resorts in rapid succession, visiting all of the U.S. Disney parks within eight months. This gave me the occasion to reflect upon the strengths and weaknesses of the properties and I thought I might offer a few thoughts here.

First of all, let me say that the Disneyland Half-Marathon isn't half the race that the WDW distance events are. Though I enjoyed running through the parks and posted a very good time (P.R.), and can claim the dubious distinction of having nearly been tripped by Drew Carey near the two-mile mark, I thought the entire affair lacked the organization and polish that I've come to enjoy in Orlando. Maybe that's because it's a "younger" race or maybe it has a lot to do with the fact that most of the race runs through Anaheim instead of a manicured vacation resort wonderland--either way, or whatever the reason, the distinction cannot be denied.

Second, I should note that my feelings about their races parallel my sentiments about the respective properties--I just like Walt Disney World much more. Again, certain reasons could be considered obvious, and perhaps the conclusion is therefore transparent. After all, in Florida the isolation, immersion and breadth and depth of experiences (reflected by but not limited to the sheer number of parks) simply overwhelms what Disney can offer in California. But more subtle matters factored into my conclusion, as well. Among these I will list only the general necessity of traversing the always crowded and noisy Downtown Disney to get to the parks when staying at Disney hotels in Anaheim. After a busy, hectic day at Epcot, I can relax during the quiet walk back to my resort on Crescent Lake. Not so--in fact, far from it--at Disneyland Resort.

With that, I'll list some general observations about Disneyland from my perspective, in no particular order:

--Disneyland is not immune to maintenance issues. Kevin Yee's worries notwithstanding, I saw some absurd chipped paint (including on the very new, opening volley of the DCA expansion project, Toy Story Midway Mania) in Anaheim.

--Blackbeard needs to be eliminated from Pirates of the Caribbean. I've already tired of the shoehorning of Jack Sparrow into that classic attraction, but replacing Davy Jones with the uninspired, unthreatening "villain" of the fourth film suggests nothing other than pure commercial promotion. Yuck.

--Unless something has changed drastically in eight months, food in Disneyland is even more expensive than at Walt Disney World, and that's saying something, to be sure.

--Little compares to the nostalgia and quaint charm of eating at The Blue Bayou, but I'm really not sure it's worth the expense.

--On that note, though I remain convinced that the Dining Plan costs our family more than it should by feeding us more than we need, I sure missed it at Disneyland. The prices are much more difficult to swallow when I'm paying them directly out of pocket.

--Having the side streets open at the center of Main Street, U.S.A. adds so much charm to the setting that it really saddens me that WDW obliterated one such extension to expand the Emporium. These sorts of niches can be discovered throughout Disneyland and heighten its quaint distinction from the Magic Kingdom.

--The entire Disneyland Resort is guilty like WDW of confusing the shopping experience with misplaced merchandise. My son swore he saw Pirates T-shirts at the "Fly 'N' Buy" store in the Condor Flats section of DCA. Certain stores, however, remained extremely well-themed, including those for the new Little Mermaid attraction and for Pirates of the Caribbean.

--World of Color represents an impressive technical feat, but did not capture our family's imagination the way Reflections of Earth or Wishes have in the past.

--Surely seeing the projection on the It's a Small World facade instead of on Cinderella Castle stole much of its majesty, but I was disappointed to discover that, yes, "Magic, Memories and You!" is sadly more impressive on You-Tube than in person.

--Even during busy hours and on moderately crowded days, one could walk onto The Little Mermaid with no wait whatsoever. It's hard to say whether this had more to do with lukewarm public reception of a solid and attractive but relatively low-key dark ride or simply its incredible rider capacity, but clearly both play a role and the attraction cannot be considered anything like an E-ticket.

--Star Tours 3D has claimed the mantle of our family's favorite attraction at Disneyland, and was consistently mobbed throughout our visit. Having read reviews of varying enthusiasm on this site, I was prepared for disappointment, but wow were we surprised! On four runs through, we had different experiences each time and saw many of the destinations with little repetition. Granted, some of the CGI are not top-notch, but the 3D effects were awesome. (I banged my head on the back of the simulator trying to dodge the ship smashing through the cockpit window on Naboo.) Its excellent, redone queue only reinforced our positive impressions.

--I'm not sure I understand entirely the undying, sloppy love for Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Forbidden Eye on this site. Its queue and pre-show represent standards after which other Disney attractions should be modeled, and the ride itself underscores the failure and embarrassment I consider Dinosaur to be, but I still find it too rambunctious and too short to be immersive. In brief, it's a ride and not an experience. For the build-up of that queue, I'd like to walk away remembering more of the actual attraction.

--Disneyland's Tomorrowland really could use a refurbishment. Really, the empty tracks previously occupied by Rocket Rods and the unused escalators near the arcade and the Star Tours exit look so shabby and remind me always of poor planning and sweeping problems under the rug.

--I saw a lot more offensive T-shirts, hats and other logos emblazoned on tattoos and elsewhere, including some featuring a specific four-letter word beginning with "F," at Disneyland than I ever saw in Orlando. How disappointing that cast members did not drop hammers on these guests. I wonder--Is this a function of local clientele who do not value the park or their visits as do once-in-a-lifetime vacationers in Florida?
 

Ralphlaw

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We did both resorts this past year, and a Disney Cruise to Alaska, so comparisons abound. Here's a few observations, in no particular order:

1. The cast members seem far more into it in California, as if they're all trying to be discovered by a Hollywood director.

2. The Disneyland Soundsational parade is awesome, easily my favorite Disney parade ever.

3. In California, I really missed Epcot. The beauty and mystery of World Showcase left a void, although New Orleans Square at Disneyland helps make up for it.

4. California Adventure has some great stuff, but definitely has to find its heart. Maybe the new Cars area will help once it's open.

5. Phineas and Ferb's dance party at California Adventure is great.

6. The original Tiki Room at Disneyland is much better than the obnxious Iago version at WDW.

7. Somehow, Disneyland seems taller. Porbably because it's more compact.

8. At Disneyland, they gutted Carousel of Progress to put in an Innoventions sort of thing, with some features that are exactly like the post-ride from Spaceship Earth. It was very popular, especially for the kids and teens.

9. Star Tours 3D is awesome. And it's probably set up to easily add even more scenarios. I wonder if similar unique versions every time you ride will be added to other attractions, like Mission Space. Maybe you go to Mars, maybe Saturn, maybe Jupiter. The possibilities are endless.

10. Muppet 3D was closed to show a snippet from TRON in 3D. In fact, TRON took over a big chunk of California Adventure, which was kind of dark and wierd for my tastes.

That's all for now. It's late, the Packers beat a very good New Orleans team, and I've got work tomorrow.
 

MarkTwain

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--I saw a lot more offensive T-shirts, hats and other logos emblazoned on tattoos and elsewhere, including some featuring a specific four-letter word beginning with "F," at Disneyland than I ever saw in Orlando. How disappointing that cast members did not drop hammers on these guests. I wonder--Is this a function of local clientele who do not value the park or their visits as do once-in-a-lifetime vacationers in Florida?

Had the exact same impression (and it sounds like even the same tshirt) on my last visit to Disneyland, and your guesses for why this happened seem to be the same as mine. The days of wearing khakis and collars to the Magic Kingdom may be over, but I suspect most WDW visitors take their visitors to the park a bit more seriously than some of the Disneylanders who visit their park with all of the casualness of a shopping mall.

That said, that was about the only negative impression I had of my visit to Disneyland, and in general I completely fell in love with the place. However your points are perfectly fair, and I can't really argue with any of them, although I will say the sum of all the many great things at Disneyland far outweigh any negative things I picked up on.
 

BigTxEars

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Nice post, thanks for sharing your thoughts. I can not comment on the things you said as I have not been to DL in 20 years. I do envy you getting to go to both parks in such quick succession. :)

Can you give me a quick breakdown on how the marathon works at WDW? Thanks in advance.
 

Communicore

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:king: Yea I am planning a DL visit and maybe splurge to stay at the cool Disneyland hotel. It's been a long time, 1995 to be exact, and at night to boot, since I been there and I'm sure it will be a fun time!
 

WDWGoof07

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Be careful, OP. You've made some statements that run contrary to the conventional wisdom on these boards concerning the comparison of these two resorts.

"Thar be squalls ahead..."
 

JamieD

Member
We once did both WDW and DL within 8 days of one another. I had always heard others on "holiday" who would mention flying directly from one to the other and I was jealous. In 1997, we a a previously scheduled trip to WDW when a conference in Anaheim was dropped in my dad's lap. We left WDW on Sunday and flew to DL 8 days later on Monday. That'll be the closet I'll ever be to going from one to the other. That brought on a nostalgic feeling; thanks for letting me share.

Great comparison and thoughts regarding your trips. I've always enjoyed both locations. And, living in the eastern half of the US, WDW trips are more frequent and therefore I know the resort much better. That leaves DLR with much more of feeling of discovery for me. I liken it to the museum, park, or shopping area in your town that you involuntarily take for granted but when a guest comes to town, they rave and rave about it. I guess I'm saying that I'm much closer to and familiar with WDW so it unfairly gets taken for granted, if that's possible. Because of the overall attendance and even awareness where I'm from, DL has always felt more like my little secret. I know it sounds stupid, but DL is like my hole-in-the-wall diner or coffee shop that is fantastic and "only I know about it."
 

Cmdr_Crimson

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I did Both resorts in Jan at WDW and Aug at DL..Here's my Thoughts..

DL Express - Waiting on the green island for almost 20-30mins, you have to Pay $32 for a roundtrip, and you have to pickup your bags.
DME - No Bag Pickup, no hassels or wait time, and it's free!

Resort - Considering that Paradise Pier is a Value/Moderate Hotel they don't have that much to do. All restaurants close at 10 so there's no chance of any midnight munchies if the park closes at midnight.

DL property - 520 acres and the neighbors are visible mowing thier lawns
WDW Property - 47 square miles and no site of houses..

DTD DL - Seems smaller and crammed not too much to do.
DTD WDW - Is WAAAAAY Better.

DL Food..One gripe I had is this...Does Every Hot Combo not come with Fries...Really?
WDW - The food Here is Friggin Awesome!

Attractions - The Layout of DL seems too Crammed for me..Rides are unique like Roger Rabbit's CarToon Spin and Indiana Jones Adventure (A way better themed version of Dinosaur). But Wait Times are Rediculous!

Winner in my book is WDW! It's far better and service is so much nicer.
 
I guess everyone has different experiences at each park which can make or break your favourite of the two. Personally, I am a WDW fan. Not only because of the size, but because you can completely immerse yourself in the Disney experience. The outside world doesn't even come close to touching you. That is very special to me.

I just recently visited Disneyland for the first time and I did really enjoy it. However, in my opinion the castle is a little small lol. What can make or break my Disney vacation is the service I receive while I am there. I found that it wasn't the same in Disneyland as it was in Disney World. Each time I have been to WDW I have interacted with amazing cast members. They are so friendly and helpful - I'm always blown away. I didn't have anyone 'wow' me like that in Disneyland which surprised me. I always thought Disneyland would feel like the more magical of the two because Walt was there when it was built - he walked through it and rode the rides. That wasn't so much the case though. I think Walt Disney World contains more magic for me. That being said... I am a little biased as I've been to WDW way more times than I've been to Disneyland.

I must say though... World of Colour blew my mind! I loved it.
 

worldfanatic

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These WDW vs. DLR threads are a little worn.
I mean I'm not complaining, I enjoyed the first 3 or 4 thousand of them, but the last 5 or 6 thousand have gotten a little stale.:brick:

I'm gonna go watch 'How I met your mother'.
 

spock

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--I'm not sure I understand entirely the undying, sloppy love for Indiana Jones and the Temple of the Forbidden Eye on this site. Its queue and pre-show represent standards after which other Disney attractions should be modeled, and the ride itself underscores the failure and embarrassment I consider Dinosaur to be, but I still find it too rambunctious and too short to be immersive. In brief, it's a ride and not an experience. For the build-up of that queue, I'd like to walk away remembering more of the actual attraction.

:sohappy: Have to agree wholeheartedly with this. I was starting to think it was just me :lol:. I do enjoy Indy, but I've always thought each show scene goes so abruptly that it's not enough time to really soak in what's happening. A bit of a letdown after such an impressive queue.
 

spock

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WDW - The food Here is Friggin Awesome!

I have to say I agree with every statement in your post except for this one. In fact, at first I thought maybe you had to be kidding (were you?). Overall it probably is better than DL's food, but I'm just not sure I'd say it's "friggin awesome!" :lol: The food at DAK is pretty good though. Probably the best of all four parks in my opinion.
 

yeti

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Just returning from a trip to DL about a couple of weeks ago, I noted that they have a greater tendency to sacrifice good service/efficiency for show quality (we were there for a week, and almost every ride we when on seemed to malfunction, close, and evacuate-on BTM we were right at the safety gates and were told to evacuate without much apologies). While I know WDW would benefit greatly from the way the people upstairs over in Anaheim operate, I feel that if Anaheim could adopt the whole "take my hat off to" attitude towards guests while sustaining their superior-quality maintenance, they'd get my vote (nostalgia notwithstanding). As phony as it is, there's much that can be said for the excessively polite "be our guest" disposition.


Just my observation.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

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I have to say I agree with every statement in your post except for this one. In fact, at first I thought maybe you had to be kidding (were you?). Overall it probably is better than DL's food, but I'm just not sure I'd say it's "friggin awesome!" :lol: The food at DAK is pretty good though. Probably the best of all four parks in my opinion.

I have to say WDW was alot better in service and the way how food is prepared..I was getting rather sick and tired of having chips with my Hot Dog..I want a "Real" Casey Combo with fries!

A $5.99 Pizza slice at DL to a $5.99 Mini Pizza at WDW is better..granted that the pizza is cardboardish and has a burnt taste :hurl: but never the less..:lol:

DL Burgers when you request how you want it as a Hamburger not a cheeseburger...you somehow still get a cheeseburger...:brick:

WDW Burgers you request they deliver! They seem to get your order quickly compared to DL...

Speaking of the burgers...I only went to one full service restaurant and that was in my hotel at Paradise Pier called The PCH Grill..Although I was dissapointed to find out that my Burger was a Park Burger with the same fresh cut fries decked out at $12.99:eek:.. It was exactly the same. At least Sci Fi Dine In has a Much better Burger IMO.

One other thing was that their Dole Whips didn't come in the Sleek looking cup but a large Dixie cup..But Que sera sera..I enjoyed it and it was equally good from east to west.
 

docandsix

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On a positive note...

I'm convinced that we saw many fewer scooters and similar electronic conveyances at Disneyland than at WDW, where they are ubiquitous and occasionally dangerous when driven by apparent newcomers and amateurs. I'm sure this relates to the much smaller, much more manageable size of Disneyland, but at least this one difference between the resorts was welcome.
 

pumpkin7

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8. At Disneyland, they gutted Carousel of Progress to put in an Innoventions sort of thing, with some features that are exactly like the post-ride from Spaceship Earth. It was very popular, especially for the kids and teens.

it wasn't gutted. you can still see the show at WDW. they just moved it.

i can't wait to go to disneyland one of the days, just to see where it all started and to see what everyone goes on about with comparing the two.
 
So glad that this is a thread because my family and I were just thinking about taking our first Disneyland trip in 2012 but after seeing more con's than pro's, I think I'll just stick to my beautiful Walt Disney World!
 

Magenta Panther

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So glad that this is a thread because my family and I were just thinking about taking our first Disneyland trip in 2012 but after seeing more con's than pro's, I think I'll just stick to my beautiful Walt Disney World!

I kinda feel the same way now. I think I'll hold off on Disneyland until after Buena Vista Street opens...
 

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