Changes to Typhoon Lagoon bus transportation beginning next week

durangojim

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Normally I don't comment much on the buses because they are what they are: Free transportation that's pretty good overall, but this change will be really inconvenient for a lot of people and will make getting to or from your resort take at least 1 1/2 hours I'm betting. Makes me really glad that I'll have our car in 2 weeks when we are staying at the WL and going to TL.
 

stevebwv

Active Member
I would imagine several buses will be dedicated to the TL to Epcot loop minimizing the wait times. The Epcot buses should also see an increase in frequency to handle the increased load. I would imagine the overall average wait time increase will be small (under 10 minutes). Still not fun to be shuttled around in wet clothing caring a load of gear.
 

RTeker

Active Member
Normally I don't comment much on the buses because they are what they are: Free transportation that's pretty good overall, but this change will be really inconvenient for a lot of people and will make getting to or from your resort take at least 1 1/2 hours I'm betting.
thats basically what I was thinking, very inconvenient for those staying at the resorts. You wanna go to Typhoon and it's 1:58pm but the bus ain't there then what, you have to go ALL the way to Epcot cause the buses won't be anywhere else but Epcot at 2pm
 

PhotoDave219

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I would imagine several buses will be dedicated to the TL to Epcot loop minimizing the wait times. The Epcot buses should also see an increase in frequency to handle the increased load. I would imagine the overall average wait time increase will be small (under 10 minutes). Still not fun to be shuttled around in wet clothing caring a load of gear.

Just curious.... why do you think that? Because I imagine not... based on transportation's history & track record.
 

Daniel Benton

New Member
We are going out on the 16th, and will probably spend 1 or 2 days at TL,

What we will probably end up doing is getting to TL early - normal bus service, then on the way back staying at Epcot for Illuminations,

Although this is frustrating as we are staying at Saratoga Springs - Epcot is in the opposite direction!
 

JasonDeyoung

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I dont go to TL and this actually makes me happy, always annoyed me leaving dtd having to stop at TL lol oh well, probably only in effect for part of summer
 

PolynesianPrincess

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We are going out on the 16th, and will probably spend 1 or 2 days at TL,

What we will probably end up doing is getting to TL early - normal bus service, then on the way back staying at Epcot for Illuminations,

Although this is frustrating as we are staying at Saratoga Springs - Epcot is in the opposite direction!

SSR is so close to TL, you might be better off taking a cab! It would definitely save you lots of time and I wouldn't think it would be that pricey.
 

stevebwv

Active Member
Just curious.... why do you think that? Because I imagine not... based on transportation's history & track record.

I think that precisely based on history and track record. The buses have historically been run very efficiently. The largest compliant with the system is the shared stops at deluxe resorts among those that feel entitled to instant point to point transportation.
 

PhotoDave219

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I think that precisely based on history and track record. The buses have historically been run very efficiently. The largest compliant with the system is the shared stops at deluxe resorts among those that feel entitled to instant point to point transportation.

I beg to differ. I find them slow and wastes guests time at a point where the resort is asking guests to schedule things rigidly.
 

stevebwv

Active Member
I beg to differ. I find them slow and wastes guests time at a point where the resort is asking guests to schedule things rigidly.

Slow is relative. WDW advertises a 20 minute schedule but as probabilities play out the wait is almost always less with an average wait time of 10 minutes (my years of stays support this and I refuse to drive while at the world). How many times do people exclaim the great timing and luck when they approach a stop in sync with their desired bus yet complain of the poor transportation when the arrive seconds after the bus departs never realizing they are on the other end of the spectrum?

The real time sink is the additional stops before the intended destination.

How would suggest they realistically change the service?
 

PhotoDave219

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Slow is relative. WDW advertises a 20 minute schedule but as probabilities play out the wait is almost always less with an average wait time of 10 minutes (my years of stays support this and I refuse to drive while at the world). How many times do people exclaim the great timing and luck when they approach a stop in sync with their desired bus yet complain of the poor transportation when the arrive seconds after the bus departs never realizing they are on the other end of the spectrum?

The real time sink is the additional stops before the intended destination.

How would suggest they realistically change the service?

Well first, put up the signs that say when the next bus is do, like they said they were going to do years ago. And all the other things they touted. Actually informing guests generally calms them down.

Second? Work on an initiative to create bus only lanes.

Third? More frequent buses. (A common statement I've heard privately is "we're paid by the hour, not by the trip")

Fourth? Build me a personal parking spot by the contemporary so I can walk to MK.
 

Kman101

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The bus service is hardly efficient. They shouldn't have one bus pick up guests at several different resorts so they're packed to the gils. Spread it out.

Bus service pick up at Downtown Disney is terribly slow. Yes, unforseen circumstances, slow loading guests, traffic, etc. can get in the way but there's no excuse for guests to be waiting 45 minutes for a bus.

It's hardly efficient. It's great it's free and I appreciate the service they offer, but there are some things they could do to make it a bit more efficient.

I've personally waited longer than 10 minutes. You can't say that your "10 minute wait" is the be all for every guest. So it's why a bunch of folks were waiting for 30+ minutes at Downtown Disney for Art of Animation? You can't say that your experience is everyone's. It's not.

And it's not just a one off occurence. Go read people's trip reports, talk to other guests. I'm sure they have varied experiences. Yes, that's all bus service, I get that ...
 

stevebwv

Active Member
Well first, put up the signs that say when the next bus is do, like they said they were going to do years ago. And all the other things they touted. Actually informing guests generally calms them down.

Second? Work on an initiative to create bus only lanes.

Third? More frequent buses. (A common statement I've heard privately is "we're paid by the hour, not by the trip")

Fourth? Build me a personal parking spot by the contemporary so I can walk to MK.

I saw several screens with arrival times at the resorts last week. I believe it was AKV and GF but I could be wrong. I agree these should be everywhere. But this does not change slow. But as you said, information is soothing and eliminates the felling of powerlessness.

Bus only lanes would be great but also a huge investment. I think adding more multipurpose lanes, as they have begun to do in earnest, would be a better use of resource overall.

More frequent buses in unrealistic as most buses are driven well under capacity. They need to balance both timeliness and capacity to keep both capital and environmental costs acceptable.

Busing guests is a huge task and I believe Disney does a great job handling a complex problem. There is always room for improvement but overall it serves the guests well.
 

PhotoDave219

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I saw several screens with arrival times at the resorts last week. I believe it was AKV and GF but I could be wrong. I agree these should be everywhere. But this does not change slow. But as you said, information is soothing and eliminates the felling of powerlessness.

Bus only lanes would be great but also a huge investment. I think adding more multipurpose lanes, as they have begun to do in earnest, would be a better use of resource overall.

More frequent buses in unrealistic as most buses are driven well under capacity. They need to balance both timeliness and capacity to keep both capital and environmental costs acceptable.

Busing guests is a huge task and I believe Disney does a great job handling a complex problem. There is always room for improvement but overall it serves the guests well.

Okay, those screens were said to be implemented in the 2008-ish time frame.

So how long have you worked for Disney?
 

stevebwv

Active Member
The bus service is hardly efficient. They shouldn't have one bus pick up guests at several different resorts so they're packed to the gils. Spread it out.

Bus service pick up at Downtown Disney is terribly slow. Yes, unforseen circumstances, slow loading guests, traffic, etc. can get in the way but there's no excuse for guests to be waiting 45 minutes for a bus.

It's hardly efficient. It's great it's free and I appreciate the service they offer, but there are some things they could do to make it a bit more efficient.

I've personally waited longer than 10 minutes. You can't say that your "10 minute wait" is the be all for every guest. So it's why a bunch of folks were waiting for 30+ minutes at Downtown Disney for Art of Animation? You can't say that your experience is everyone's. It's not.

And it's not just a one off occurence. Go read people's trip reports, talk to other guests. I'm sure they have varied experiences. Yes, that's all bus service, I get that ...

10 minutes would be average for a 20 minute cycle, not the maximum. And if you believe a 10 minute is unacceptable there will never be a service that satisfies.

Of course there are outliers of 30+ minutes. You listed the reasons for unforeseen circumstances. They happen. A bus has two scooters to unload and two more to load at one stop will make for a long delay. But these delays are not common it is just that the frustration of the experience sits longer in the consciousness than the uneventful five minute wait.

If you consider the variables that the system must deal (demand, weather, road conditions, scooters, lost guests, drivers) with they do a great job.
 

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