I`m thinking about upgrading from a T3i to a 60D or a 7D. Is the 7D really worth $600.00 more than the 60D? I do not care about video at all; I use a very nice Sony for that.
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Canon question.
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Thanks for the heads up. I hope it compares to the new Nikon D7100, that really looks like a nice rig.
Well they are pre selling two new models right now, the T5i and the SL1. After reading the specs, I must say that I`m not very impressed. Anyone else have any thoughts?
donsullivan
Premium Member
It's really hard to suggest what the right answer is for you without a sense of what you're shooting now that your current T3i can't do if you don't want video. For example, do you want better low-light performance, or faster focusing, or higher shots-per-second rate, etc..
The 60D is actually a very nice camera but the rumor mill is strong that it will be refreshed in late April with a new 70D. There aren't any clear rumors on what will be different but I don't expect much more than an evolutionary upgrade.
The 7D Mark II rumors are all pointing toward a fall announcement. I've had a 7D for the the last few years as my second camera and been extremely happy with it. There was a pretty major software upgrade last year that gave it some new life.
You'll find the base image quality of the 60D and the 7D to be very similar, but each has features that the other does not. A great way to see the differences between the two is the comparison page on DP Review
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras
You can choose the camera models you are interested in and it will line up the specs side-by-side so you can compare the features that are important to you. I'd put your current camera as well as the one(s) you're considering and you'll be able to see how it compares to the newer models.
The 60D is actually a very nice camera but the rumor mill is strong that it will be refreshed in late April with a new 70D. There aren't any clear rumors on what will be different but I don't expect much more than an evolutionary upgrade.
The 7D Mark II rumors are all pointing toward a fall announcement. I've had a 7D for the the last few years as my second camera and been extremely happy with it. There was a pretty major software upgrade last year that gave it some new life.
You'll find the base image quality of the 60D and the 7D to be very similar, but each has features that the other does not. A great way to see the differences between the two is the comparison page on DP Review
http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/cameras
You can choose the camera models you are interested in and it will line up the specs side-by-side so you can compare the features that are important to you. I'd put your current camera as well as the one(s) you're considering and you'll be able to see how it compares to the newer models.
donsullivan
Premium Member
Primary for the last year is a Canon 5D Mark III. I have the 7D around as a backup and for fast action type outdoor shooting but it will likely get replaced soon.
NowInc
Well-Known Member
Even tho I shoot Nikon, I do keep tabs and even admire all the other companies products out there. To be honest..Canon here seems to just be throwing things at the wall to see what sticks. The new bodies they announced are both REALLY underwhelming, and are more gimmick than functional. They need to get on that 7DMKII sooner than later, especially after nikon just had a couple of pretty well praised releases (D600 and the D7100).
Thanks for the input. I want better low- light performance and faster focusing.
I just looked at the unofficial specs for the 7D MKII and it looks pretty nice. I just know that I really like the Nikon 7100(based on what I`ve read and seen).
NowInc
Well-Known Member
In the end, Canon better price the new models competitively. The D7100 is a great camera for a "low" price point, and then you can go full frame for a few hundred more (D600). I think the competition is great, and its always good to have options (different strokes for different folks!)...each company has an advantage, and as long as they keep trying to "one-up" one another..it only benefits us as a consumer. My only complaint is how hard it is to "choose a side" when first getting started!
donsullivan
Premium Member
Canon has been really kicking up the prices on much of their gear over the last couple of years, especially the higher end stuff like full frame bodies and L-Series lenses.
For those choosing from the start, I often recommend that they choose the brand the largest number of their friends use. it creates a built-in help system as you're learning and also create the potential opportunity (if they like you
) to borrow things like lenses before you spend too much money on extra lenses and the like. The practical reality is that at the entry to mid level ranges of gear you aren't likely to be disappointed with the results from either Canon or Nikon.
PhotoDave219
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You'd do better off with a 6D. Full frame is the way to go. I have friends that shoot Canon (professionally, of course) and they sold the 7D as quick as they bought it.
YMMV of course.
sporadic
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That's pretty subjective as they are very different animals. 6D may be full frame, but the 7D excels for for things like shooting sports with a much higher burst rate and a better AF system. For action oriented stuff, I'd say the 7D. For portraiture, I'd say the 6D. You can't just lump them both together and say "this one is better". As for the t3i, it's a very capable body. The sensor is actually the same one used in the 60D and 7D, so noise is going to be very comparable between them. I went from a XSi to a 7D in 2009 and love it. No intentions of upgrading anytime soon. The OP didn't mention what lenses they had either. Unless you have nice glass, I'd put my money there first. With proper exposure at ISO3200, shooting in RAW and NR in post, there's no reason you can't get 8x10 printable quality from the t3i. Camera bodies come and go, but nice glass is forever (til you trash it).
PhotoDave219
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Okay, I work in photojournalism & corporate photography. Our standard cameras are full-frame. Your mileage may vary but for what I do, we use full frame.
ddbowdoin
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yeah, but at the end of the day what is full frame... 35mm! That's small format to me to begin with.
I think cropped sensors are closing the gap, unless you're printing large format prints the gap can be closed slightly with good glass and an excellent understanding and demonstration of post production skills. When it boils down to dollars and cents, I have a hard time justifying the cost difference between say a D7100 and a D3S. Sure, you're talking some ISO performance differences there is no doubt there, but for 4X the cost? If you're making money off your work then yes, make that investment. I own about 6 grand worth of glass, but they've been paid for over and a few times now. But for your average weekend shooter... no way.
WDI 1998
Active Member
I just made (for me anyway) a major upgrade in my gear. I had a Nikon D80 with kit lenses. The lenses were crap. I have been studying my options for quite a while and I finally decided to go with the D7100 and new glass. In the end it was up between the D7100 and D600. With all the features the D7100 has I could not justify the additional $800 for the D600 just for the full frame sensor. It has some capabilities that the D600 does not.
I spent all day last Saturday shooting a local Kentucky Derby event and I was blown away with the quality of the shots I got. A plus to all this is that I can use the fast lenses I bought on the D80 as well and now have a back up body to work with. I will be loading some of the shots from this past weekend to Flickr shortly if anyone wants to check them out.
Get the best you can afford but focus on getting great glass. The Tamron and Tokina F2.8 lenses are great and don't cost an arm and a leg.
I spent all day last Saturday shooting a local Kentucky Derby event and I was blown away with the quality of the shots I got. A plus to all this is that I can use the fast lenses I bought on the D80 as well and now have a back up body to work with. I will be loading some of the shots from this past weekend to Flickr shortly if anyone wants to check them out.
Get the best you can afford but focus on getting great glass. The Tamron and Tokina F2.8 lenses are great and don't cost an arm and a leg.
PhotoDave219
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True. But we're not average weekend shooters, are we?
ddbowdoin
Well-Known Member
Oh yeah but it seems a lot of casual shooters here and elsewhere salivate over that "FX" label on the front of the body