Bad Shows

[PBarton]

Hi,

I was just remembering back to our last trip to Epcot, we were walking up to HISTA and noticed a man stood up on a roof next to the building. He was painting a section of the wall - no problems there....

The problem was - he was smoking as he was working . I had to look twice to see if my eyes were playing tricks on me! The memory stuck in my mind for some time afterwards.

Has anyone else got any similar stories??

 

[zjer]

I'm not entirely sure what the problem is. :veryconfu

 

[tigsmom]

I'd rather marvel at the wonder that is WDW than to complain about someone smoking while they are painting.

Look for the bad and thats all you will find, I'll concentrate my energies on the good.

 

[General Grizz]

It IS important to focus on the magic, but daytime working is typically a "no no."

Remember that Walt Disney World is a SHOW. When watching a show, we don't typically see technicians painting the sets while the production goes on. This concept of "show" is ranked higher than "efficiency," and typically this work would be done while the park is closed.

Is it signalling the end of the world or lost magic? No, but when combined with potential other factors, a general atmosphere of a lower quality standards exists. It should be improved, I feel, although it should never be the focus of a vacation.

 

[DisneyFreak529]

I'm not entirely sure what the problem is. :veryconfu

I agree, I don't see what the problem is. So what he was smoking.
I would be to busy enjoy the park to even notice or care.

 

[Steve-Matt]

The Little Things Do Matter!

If I had seen the "smoking man working" it would have stood out like a sore thumb, how many others would have seen this too? If you let these "small" things go they will grow! Eventually you will have them smoking and whistling at the passing girls along with there workers backside shinning from the rear.

Attension to detail is what makes Disney so magical, so yes this may seem like an insignificant event but this is Disney we are talking about!

Are paint fumes flammable???


(27 days to DLRP)

 

[Merlin]

I agree, I don't see what the problem is. So what he was smoking.
I would be to busy enjoy the park to even notice or care.

It is considered "bad show" to be smoking onstage.

 

[The_CEO]

Hi,

I was just remembering back to our last trip to Epcot, we were walking up to HISTA and noticed a man stood up on a roof next to the building. He was painting a section of the wall - no problems there....

The problem was - he was smoking as he was working . I had to look twice to see if my eyes were playing tricks on me! The memory stuck in my mind for some time afterwards.

Has anyone else got any similar stories??

Welcome to a rehab scene. If you freaked over that, don't visit say Universal...

 

[dreamteacher]

I do not see a problem except that he was smoking. As most of you know I work at a resturant and we just finished painting the bathrooms during hrs. these things has to be done no matter what. *shrugs sholders*

 

[tinkish]

Smoking while painting seems a little dangerous...just a little common sense should be able to tell this person...or rather reading the warning label should have told him that the fumes, and flames don't mix well. Other than that...I don't see a problem with him painting.

 

[luckyeye13]

It IS important to focus on the magic, but daytime working is typically a "no no."

Remember that Walt Disney World is a SHOW. When watching a show, we don't typically see technicians painting the sets while the production goes on. This concept of "show" is ranked higher than "efficiency," and typically this work would be done while the park is closed.

Is it signalling the end of the world or lost magic? No, but when combined with potential other factors, a general atmosphere of a lower quality standards exists. It should be improved, I feel, although it should never be the focus of a vacation.

Apparently, from posts I have read on another Disney forum site and, according to a comment from Trevor Larsen, vice president for engineering services at WDW, in an Orlando Sentinel article from last year, painting has always occured during the day.

When painting the park at night was mentioned,
"That's a myth, says Disney's Larsen. 'It's become part of the folklore that we're magically able to get things done before the guests arrive every day.'

Certain tasks have always been done during the day, he says. 'Paint needs a temperature of at least 70 degrees to dry properly, so painting must be done during the day.'"

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Several posters even remember seeing painters during their visits long long ago. Smoking onstage, though, is an entirely different matter and really is bad show!

 

[General Grizz]

Apparently, from posts I have read on another Disney forum site and, according to a comment from Trevor Larsen, vice president for engineering services at WDW, in an Orlando Sentinel article from last year, painting has always occured during the day.

When painting the park at night was mentioned,
"That's a myth, says Disney's Larsen. 'It's become part of the folklore that we're magically able to get things done before the guests arrive every day.'

Certain tasks have always been done during the day, he says. 'Paint needs a temperature of at least 70 degrees to dry properly, so painting must be done during the day.'"

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Several posters even remember seeing painters during their visits long long ago. Smoking onstage, though, is an entirely different matter and really is bad show!

Excellent. . . according to weather.com, it will be 70 degrees tomorrow morning at 6 AM. :lookaroun :lol:

Honestly, that is something to take into consideration. Also, typically construction walls help the appearance of bad show away (perhaps that might be some of the reasoning of the giant tarp in front of the DNA chain over at Wonders).

 

[Woody13]

Smoking while painting seems a little dangerous...just a little common sense should be able to tell this person...or rather reading the warning label should have told him that the fumes, and flames don't mix well. Other than that...I don't see a problem with him painting.

Most latex and acrylic paints are non-toxic and non-flammable.

 

[The_CEO]

This to me qualifies for the " Lets move on " Award.

He was smoking a cig, so do hundreds of guests each day...

 

[Kwit35]

Hi,

I was just remembering back to our last trip to Epcot, we were walking up to HISTA and noticed a man stood up on a roof next to the building. He was painting a section of the wall - no problems there....

The problem was - he was smoking as he was working . I had to look twice to see if my eyes were playing tricks on me! The memory stuck in my mind for some time afterwards.

Has anyone else got any similar stories??

I'm sorry, but I have to agree. I just don't think that smoking belongs anywhere in the parks. If he wants to go backstage, to a designated smoking area...feel free to do so. But I think it looks so unprofessional in any job. I know that all the smokers out there will probably jump all over me, but I just hate walking through someone else's addiction (2nd hand smoke). I wish that smoking was the kind of habit that was personal, but is isn't. Once you light up, you are affecting every single person that you are near. I wouldn't complain if it didn't affect me or my family, but... We know where the smoking areas are in the parks, and we stay away. But when the smoke is brought to us...
Sorry for the rant...
The one thing I have seen (heard) in the past, that really bothers me, is when I hear CM's curse, in earshot of my child. When kids are not around, I don't really care what anyone is talking about. But when my daughter is exposed to inappropriate conversation, I get a little upset. I usually just clear my throught loudly, then sort of glance at my daughter. This has happened more then once, and the CM's have always appologised and I always smile to say, 'no biggy, just don't do it again!' . I hate being a party pooper, but having kids really makes you take notice of things like this.

 

[WDWKat26]

Where was this again?

And I wonder if he was an actual CM or just a contracted person hired to paint around Disney...just because they're working on Disney property doesn't neccesarily mean they're all CM's....

 

[luckyeye13]

The one thing I have seen (heard) in the past, that really bothers me, is when I hear CM's curse, in earshot of my child. When kids are not around, I don't really care what anyone is talking about. But when my daughter is exposed to inappropriate conversation, I get a little upset. I usually just clear my throught loudly, then sort of glance at my daughter. This has happened more then once, and the CM's have always appologised and I always smile to say, 'no biggy, just don't do it again!' . I hate being a party pooper, but having kids really makes you take notice of things like this.

Oh, I'm definitely with you on that one! I don't like hearing (or using) curse words in general, but I absolutely cringe when a Cast Member curses onstage! It actually makes me embarassed for them. If the curse was thrown into a conversation with me, I feel as if I'm being stared at, too, because I was involved in the conversation, even though I didn't curse.

 

[MagliteL13]

Oh, I'm definitely with you on that one! I don't like hearing (or using) curse words in general, but I absolutely cringe when a Cast Member curses onstage! It actually makes me embarassed for them. If the curse was thrown into a conversation with me, I feel as if I'm being stared at, too, because I was involved in the conversation, even though I didn't curse.

Cast Members who curse anywhere near children should definently have to have a talk with their leaders. I'm with ya luckyeye. Even not at Disney, I find myself looking over my shoulder or around the place I'm at before I say something even remotely innapropriate.

As for the smoking thing--I don't care if he was or wasn't a CM, it's still bad show to smoke on stage. The painting thing I'll take because light is required to see what you're painting. Speaking from my theatre background, I've done my share of scenic painting and I never could do it well in the dark--I'd either end up coating unevenly or miss just a little tiny spot or whatever. Then there's the entire theatre issue of the paint looking different under stage lighting....but that's a different subject for a different site. *Stepping off of my box and then quickly dismantling it.*

 

[tinkish]

Imagine! Someone busily painting at Disney! How dare he not whistle while he works!!!

 

[PBarton]

Hello,

Just to clarify things here. I never had (or have) a problem in seeing painting/renovation work being carried out in daytime hours, how else could they complete EE??

My point was that myself and many others could see a member of the Disney Maintainance crew smoking on stage. The area he was working on was not covered by a tarp, so was in full guest view. That was the point that I was (poorly) making.

Imagine turning up at the TTC to find a CM smoking in the ticket booth!