Awful, Could this happen on Kali ??

WDW_Jon

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Brother and sister killed in Dreamworld theme park accident
http://news.sky.com/story/dreamworld-theme-park-ride-accident-kills-up-to-four-10631462

Hope this link works, tragic accident in Australia...

Makes you think,could this happen at animal kingdom on Kali?
I'm sure the Disney setup/system is superior but is it a possibility??

Appears they may not have been secured but I've always wondered if the rafts could flip at any point?
 
BigRedDad

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A Kali raft has flipped but with no one in it to my knowledge. Looking at the pictures, the issue is allowing 2 boats to be at the conveyor at the same time. The big gates on Kali block that from happening. With that being said, anyone outside a raft is in an extremely bad situation. There is no where to go and no stopping the rafts.
 
lazyboy97o

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The rafts are free floating objects, so there is the potential for even ones at a Disney park to flip over. Before a proper investigation to know the cause of this incident it is not possible to properly consider how at risk Disney's raft rides are to a similar occurrence.
 
JIMINYCR

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Theres always a risk of a tragic accident occurring... even at Disney. Safety checks are done and rides are constantly evaluated, but nothings perfect and accidents will happen. Water rafts are free floating so they are less stable than ride cars on track systems. I cant fathom being on vacation at Disney, expecting only fun and joy filled moments with family and instead having to be faced with the unexpected death of a loved one. But it has happened even at Disney. Just another reminder that we have to be thankful for every moment we have with each member of our families.
 
Phonedave

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It's hard to say what can and cannot happen on Kali without know the root cause of what happend on this ride. What amusement park rides are safe (loads of people ride them without any issues) there is alwayd a risk - accidents happen, that is why they are called accidents.

Them park rides have become a LOT safer than they were. Growing up, I went to a place in NJ called Action Park quite a bit (by myself with friends - no parents)- there is a reason it was nicknamed Traction Park, Class-Action Park, and a number of other names. It really was a dangerous place.

-dave
 
NYwdwfan

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Phonedave said:
It's hard to say what can and cannot happen on Kali without know the root cause of what happend on this ride. What amusement park rides are safe (loads of people ride them without any issues) there is alwayd a risk - accidents happen, that is why they are called accidents.

Them park rides have become a LOT safer than they were. Growing up, I went to a place in NJ called Action Park quite a bit (by myself with friends - no parents)- there is a reason it was nicknamed Traction Park, Class-Action Park, and a number of other names. It really was a dangerous place.

-dave
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A day at Action Park wasn't complete until somebody dislocated a finger.
 
NYwdwfan

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An Australian news outlet is reporting there was an issue with the water pumps (excerpt below followed by link to full article) - I obviously don't know if this is a reliable news source or not (seems they are speculating a bit) - just figured I'd pass along the info:

An emergency services source said: “There was a malfunction in relation to the water pump. It stopped pumping and then recommenced. Everything (on the ride) had stopped.”

The six-seater circular raft carrying the four tourists was approaching a conveyor which takes the craft from the water. It was blocked in front by an empty raft.

“When it (the pumps) started again, the raft was basically sitting there and hit by a flood of water (from behind),” said the emergency services source.

http://www.news.com.au/national/que...d/news-story/e777769020ced940ed280c0c7c608711
 
WDW_Jon

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I don't get too concerned by anything but I think we all assume we are safer within Disney despite hurtling around on a raft or a 40 year old rollercoaster for example! :)

Always a chance of problems and I don't have any confidence in the UK theme parks here but seem to trust Disney more!
Maybe I'm stupid ;)
 
Glasgow

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This is shockingly sad and basically unfathomable .. but yet there it is. Its likely a minuscule flaw that was never part of the design or testing process. These moments always make me realize how I don't appreciate my family enough.
 
lazyboy97o

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WDW_Jon said:
I don't get too concerned by anything but I think we all assume we are safer within Disney despite hurtling around on a raft or a 40 year old rollercoaster for example! :)

Always a chance of problems and I don't have any confidence in the UK theme parks here but seem to trust Disney more!
Maybe I'm stupid ;)
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Safety standards across the industry are very good but even Disney has been responsible for the death of guests.
 
WDW_Jon

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lazyboy97o said:
Safety standards across the industry are very good but even Disney has been responsible for the death of guests.
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I'm sure they have, I suspect I've got more chance of getting killed on the Disney bus on the way in to a park than on an attraction but always that slight concern!
 
21stamps

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lazyboy97o said:
Safety standards across the industry are very good but even Disney has been responsible for the death of guests.
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Exactly. The millions of people per year who visit Cedar Fair and Six Flags parks are also safe- for the most part. These accidents are so shocking because they are so rare.
mcurtiss said:
Busch Gardens just closed their Congo River Rapids ride: http://wtnh.com/2016/10/26/busch-gardens-closes-ride-after-fatal-accident-in-australia/
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Wow. That's surprising.

People have been injured or killed on rides before and I don't ever remember similar rides closing as a result.
 
lazyboy97o

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21stamps said:
Wow. That's surprising.

People have been injured or killed on rides before and I don't ever remember similar rides closing as a result.
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It does happen when there is cause to believe that the major contributing factory was something like a design flaw and not a localized issue such as maintenance or operations. So what commonality did Busch Gardens Tampa think existed? It is also interesting that there seems to be no comment from Busch Gardens Williamsburg (whose rapids ride is closed for the season) and SeaWorld San Diego.
 
NearTheEars

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NYwdwfan said:
An Australian news outlet is reporting there was an issue with the water pumps (excerpt below followed by link to full article) - I obviously don't know if this is a reliable news source or not (seems they are speculating a bit) - just figured I'd pass along the info:

An emergency services source said: “There was a malfunction in relation to the water pump. It stopped pumping and then recommenced. Everything (on the ride) had stopped.”

The six-seater circular raft carrying the four tourists was approaching a conveyor which takes the craft from the water. It was blocked in front by an empty raft.

“When it (the pumps) started again, the raft was basically sitting there and hit by a flood of water (from behind),” said the emergency services source.

http://www.news.com.au/national/que...d/news-story/e777769020ced940ed280c0c7c608711
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That sounds quite similar to the unload of Congo at Busch Gardens. Just road that a few weeks ago.
 
21stamps

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lazyboy97o said:
It does happen when there is cause to believe that the major contributing factory was something like a design flaw and not a localized issue such as maintenance or operations. So what commonality did Busch Gardens Tampa think existed? It is also interesting that there seems to be no comment from Busch Gardens Williamsburg (whose rapids ride is closed for the season) and SeaWorld San Diego.
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Kings Island and Cedar Point have this exact ride as well. There has not been a comment and I don't see it closing. Here is the comment from Busch Gardens Tampa-
"We have made the decision to close our Congo River Rapids ride while we work with other park operators and ride manufacturers to understand what happened in Australia," said Karen Varga-Sinka, Busch Gardens spokeswoman. "Our thoughts and prayers are with all of those involved in the tragic incident at the Dreamworld park. The safety of guests and team members continues to be Busch Gardens' number one priority. All ride attractions are inspected daily by trained technicians to ensure they are operating properly and meet all safety guidelines set forth by state agencies and well as the ride manufacturers."

There isn't a reason for any of the other parks to make a similar comment because their similar rides are already closed for the season. I'm sure we will know details before the Spring.
 

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