Are the CM perks worth $12,000 a year?

Darkbeer1

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From today's LA Times.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-theme-park-perks-20180817-story.html

>>The importance of seemingly frivolous perks was evident during recent contract negotiations at the Disneyland Resort. Among the extras that unions representing 9,700 Disneyland and California Adventure workers were adamant about keeping was an added allotment of park passes to be used during the holidays — a perk the company has offered for years.

“Our members have been used to those perks,” said Denise Anderson, who is in charge of purchasing in the entertainment costuming department at Disneyland. “We wanted to let them know that that is something our cast members work for.”

The contract dispute was resolved last month with pay increases and an agreement that the resort can cut perks for union workers only if the cuts apply to all employees, including managers.

Disneyland representatives confirmed that the so-called Disney Family Holiday Celebration — a time during the holidays when employees get extra park passes — will take place this year but have yet to announce details, such as dates.

More formal employee benefits — such as health and dental coverage, sick leave, paid vacations and retirement plans — amount to about 30% of a worker’s overall compensation package, according to labor experts.

But things such as free park passes and employee parties, theme park workers say, make their jobs more attractive than any other jobs in the hospitality or tourism industries.

“When I was a front-line employee, what kept me coming back were the perks,” said Neal Thurman, president of Six Flags Magic Mountain, who started his career as a ride operator at sister park Six Flags Over Georgia. “They are important.”<<

>>Free passes can be worth thousands of dollars a year, depending on how often they are used and how many passes are given to each worker. The number is usually higher for salaried employees than hourly workers and often increases with each year on the job.

Park passes, which are part of the perks package for all Walt Disney Co. employees, are valued at about $12,000 a year for entry-level workers (who start with 16 tickets and may bring guests) and can be even higher for the most senior, full-time employees, the Burbank entertainment giant estimated.<<

>>The February contest is a favorite for David Atkins, a manager at the Disneyland Resort’s custodial department.

“It’s what separates this,” he said, “from a job at a mall.”<<
 

Darkbeer1

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Let me just say, this article was a "bone" given to Disney by the LA Times.

It was done from a suggestion by Disney, and was planned to be used in campaign material against the ALWI.

So the number might be high. But it is also something I have heard quite a bit about from Theme Park Employees, and have been used in multiple attempts to hire me over the decades in their "sales pitches".
 

GiveMeTheMusic

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Perks are nice, but they don’t pay the rent or put food on the table. A perk is only worth what you would have spent on it otherwise. Since no one buys park tickets for friends, the main gate perk is actually worth the cost of an annual pass. If you don’t have a main gate pass, you don’t personally buy tickets out of pocket for that third cousin you never heard from until they found out you work for Disney.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

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Just based on my experience/opinion...it seems like the article does a pretty good job of explaining what the perks do mentally for the employees...without outright saying it.
 

Darkbeer1

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Perks are nice, but they don’t pay the rent or put food on the table. A perk is only worth what you would have spent on it otherwise. Since no one buys park tickets for friends, the main gate perk is actually worth the cost of an annual pass. If you don’t have a main gate pass, you don’t personally buy tickets out of pocket for that third cousin you never heard from until they found out you work for Disney.

OK, I know many CM's that trade a sign-in for something like a car repair, babysitting services, etc. And of course, while "illegal", I know many who have sold sign-in's for cash to so-called friends.

And things like previews, can we compare that to the tickets Disney offers for sale to guests. How much were the Pixar Pier preview tickets, $250?
 

TP2000

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Perks are nice, but like @GiveMeTheMusic said they are only worth what the employee would have spent on them otherwise. A good employer will get creative with perks that are actually meaningful instead of just focusing on a dollar amount and looking at the employee ranks as a faceless monolith.

The unemployment rate in Orange County is now down to a record low of 2.6%. Any employer worth their break room Keurig machine is trying to figure out how to attract and retain employees right now, and while wages are rising at a quickening pace nationwide and in SoCal, it can't all be about the hourly wage. Perks and extras and niceties must be part of the overall package if employers want to keep average employees, much less the really good ones.

Disneyland needs to retain its best employees and attract an extra 1,000 or so over the next 9 months to get ready for Star Wars Land opening. And yet the opening of Star Wars Land is going to put a logistical stress on the amount of perks and park freebies Disneyland has historically doled out to CM's; when the parks are packed with paying customers you can't let in the employees for free.

The only good news for TDA is that this is an issue that should face all Walt Disney Company employees regarding their free access to Disneyland from June, 2019 onward, and not just the Anaheim CM's, much less just the union ones. I don't envy TDA trying to thread that needle in 2019 in this roaring economy with record low unemployment.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Perks are nice, but they don’t pay the rent or put food on the table. A perk is only worth what you would have spent on it otherwise. Since no one buys park tickets for friends, the main gate perk is actually worth the cost of an annual pass. If you don’t have a main gate pass, you don’t personally buy tickets out of pocket for that third cousin you never heard from until they found out you work for Disney.
Tend to agree...in practice.
 

DanielBB8

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$12,000 for park passes is calculated as a day pass instead of an annual pass. Most CMs won’t use up their allotment if you don’t have many family members to invite in each trip. Then Disney will promptly earn back their minimum wages through purchases made in the parks.
 

GiveMeTheMusic

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Perks are nice, but like @GiveMeTheMusic said they are only worth what the employee would have spent on them otherwise. A good employer will get creative with perks that are actually meaningful instead of just focusing on a dollar amount and looking at the employee ranks as a faceless monolith.

The unemployment rate in Orange County is now down to a record low of 2.6%. Any employer worth their break room Keurig machine is trying to figure out how to attract and retain employees right now, and while wages are rising at a quickening pace nationwide and in SoCal, it can't all be about the hourly wage. Perks and extras and niceties must be part of the overall package if employers want to keep average employees, much less the really good ones.

Disneyland needs to retain its best employees and attract an extra 1,000 or so over the next 9 months to get ready for Star Wars Land opening. And yet the opening of Star Wars Land is going to put a logistical stress on the amount of perks and park freebies Disneyland has historically doled out to CM's; when the parks are packed with paying customers you can't let in the employees for free.

The only good news for TDA is that this is an issue that should face all Walt Disney Company employees regarding their free access to Disneyland from June, 2019 onward, and not just the Anaheim CM's, much less just the union ones. I don't envy TDA trying to thread that needle in 2019 in this roaring economy with record low unemployment.

They could start by matching In-N-Out’s starting wage.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
The perks are really the only thing that cast members have. Take them away and they might as well be working at Walmart or wherever. Same class of riff raff to deal with.

I’m dated and a Florida guy...so pour a teaspoon of salt on this:

The perks...and Eisner was fool to completely gut them in Orlando...is the last link of Disney employees to the original brand that remains. Without them...they are dime a dozen low wage employees that happen to work in a tightly controlled centrally planned environment.

Perhaps even worse - i’m Talking decades ago when this problem wasn’t nearly as bad as now - they are almost serfs in an environment that watches the widening in wealth gap play out daily...people spending large gobs of money that’s rubbed in their faces while they stay relatively stationary. Decades ago people didn’t expect as much/were Ok with their station In life...but now it’s more disgruntled and quest for immediate gratification.

Disney’s large labor requirements are a huge liability based on their restrictions they place on employee happiness. It’s something to watch.

It’s not like working for hell (Amazon)...but it’s not exactly google either.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
The free admission, fabulous cruise line discounts especially, and the occasional opportunity to preview new offerings were what kept me around for three years....until I mentally couldn't take it anymore. I finally realized there were other ways I could get my Disney fix without having to put on a fake facade and work in misery five times a week.

I have to say I’m shocked that that is your backstory...wouldn’t have thunk it.

Learn something new everyday here...beyond how gullible people can be (a record that breaks itself daily 😎 )
 

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