Angelina Jolie -- a new way to "parent"

[DisneyPhD]

Yes mouse madness, we found out last week, its a girl (or at least that is what the ultra sound tech said she was 100% sure of.) We are really excited (and a tad disapointed, I was getting myself pysched up for a son.)

I think she (Angelina Jolie) has done a ton of good for both the country her son came from and her son. She has donated millions the the cause and has worked to be sure he still has an conection to his home land. I think being a mother has enriched her life and gave her new meaning to what is truely important. (as being a parent normally does.)

Now Inc Hi :wave: Havent' seen you for a while. I have always liked you, but there is a reason we are fiends on a board like this and don't "run in the same crowd." While those arangements may be common (in many crowds, hey even in many colleges!) It doens't mean it is as easy as that. Many things that start off easy get more compliacted. (especailly with s**) and the consequnces to it (illness and prengancy only being two, there are many others.) Not to mention the emotional and psychologcial ones. Just because it happens everyday, doesn't make it right. I am not pretending it doesn't happen, just not condoning it. (did I spell that right?)

 

[NowInc]

Originally posted by DisneyPhD


Now Inc Hi :wave: Havent' seen you for a while. I have always liked you, but there is a reason we are fiends on a board like this and don't "run in the same crowd." While those arangements may be common (in many crowds, hey even in many colleges!) It doens't mean it is as easy as that. Many things that start off easy get more compliacted. (especailly with s**) and the consequnces to it (illness and prengancy only being two, there are many others.) Not to mention the emotional and psychologcial ones. Just because it happens everyday, doesn't make it right. I am not pretending it doesn't happen, just not condoning it. (did I spell that right?)

Actually..ironically..even tho my "croud" is commonly known for doing such activities, i personaly have high reservations towards things like this. Not only am i a germaphobe, but im also not one who likes to deal with dramas from the aftermaths. Im not one to judge what others choose to do, as long as they dont try and drag me into it. Which..isnt easy seeing my very social surroundings (being in a band tends to expose you to the worst of the worst)..but i deal with it. And...im also very picky as to who i let get anywhere close to me.

Not to mention...i have a g/f...not really wanting to sleep around on her...even if its "accepted" in my circle. Not gunna happen

Not like i have time for s*x anyway..

..wow..i DO have morals..go figure

 

[MouseMadness]

Originally posted by DisneyPhD
Yes mouse madness, we found out last week, its a girl (or at least that is what the ultra sound tech said she was 100% sure of.) We are really excited (and a tad disapointed, I was getting myself pysched up for a son.)

Ah, I've been there a time or two! (or three, maybe :lookaroun) I totally love having my girls, but a boy would've been so fun, I think. Oh well.

Congratulations! :sohappy:

Dan, we always knew you were a good guy! :kiss: :animwink:

 

[DisneyPhD]

Originally posted by NowInc
Actually..ironically..even tho my "croud" is commonly known for doing such activities, i personaly have high reservations towards things like this. Not only am i a germaphobe, but im also not one who likes to deal with dramas from the aftermaths. Im not one to judge what others choose to do, as long as they dont try and drag me into it. Which..isnt easy seeing my very social surroundings (being in a band tends to expose you to the worst of the worst)..but i deal with it. And...im also very picky as to who i let get anywhere close to me.

Not to mention...i have a g/f...not really wanting to sleep around on her...even if its "accepted" in my circle. Not gunna happen

Not like i have time for s*x anyway..

..wow..i DO have morals..go figure

LOL, who knew? (I am not suprized.) See even when people say it is just about ______, it often ends up being much for compliaced that that. (you know, you deal with the aftermath dramas!) It is hard to remember when it happens so freely and people act like "its no big deal." and to some I guess it isn't. But really to more of us then not, it is a big deal. Sounds like your GF, got a good BF! :sohappy:

 

[NowInc]

Originally posted by DisneyPhD
LOL, who knew? (I am not suprized.) See even when people say it is just about ______, it often ends up being much for compliaced that that. (you know, you deal with the aftermath dramas!) It is hard to remember when it happens so freely and people act like "its no big deal." and to some I guess it isn't. But really to more of us then not, it is a big deal. Sounds like your GF, got a good BF! :sohappy:

Yeah..to ME its not so "casual"..but to most i know..it is. They seem to have no issues with it (guys AND girls)..*shrugs* I keep my safe distance.

For those of you whom are curious..here in south florida especially..these types of actions are more than everyday occurances for people. We have higher than normal drug usage as well as a much lower starting age for kids to start doing "that". It saddens me...but what can i do? Sometimes I feel im part of the problem, playing in this band supporting rebelious actions as well as free will for all ages, but then i realize its been going on even before i moved here in 1997..i just didnt SEE it as frequently.

I will admit i do have many "un-wholesome" moments, but i am always prepared to pay for my actions, no matter what they are. That usually keeps me in check

 

[Shaman]

Originally posted by NowInc
Yeah..to ME its not so "casual"..but to most i know..it is. They seem to have no issues with it (guys AND girls)..*shrugs* I keep my safe distance.

For those of you whom are curious..here in south florida especially..these types of actions are more than everyday occurances for people. We have higher than normal drug usage as well as a much lower starting age for kids to start doing "that". It saddens me...but what can i do? Sometimes I feel im part of the problem, playing in this band supporting rebelious actions as well as free will for all ages, but then i realize its been going on even before i moved here in 1997..i just didnt SEE it as frequently.

I will admit i do have many "un-wholesome" moments, but i am always prepared to pay for my actions, no matter what they are. That usually keeps me in check

I like to think I'm surrounded by zombies down here...because sometimes it hard to find a single person who doesn't participate in the latest trend...I'll bet if I went out on the streets of Miami wearing a garbage bag for a hat...everyone else would follow the leader...haha...I guess the same applies to everything else...

Not that I would trade living down here for anything in the world...I mean...I love the palm trees, the beaches, the humidity, the terrible drivers...and hey where else can you tell someone...que bola!....:lookaroun

 

[prberk]

Originally posted by NowInc
Yeah..to ME its not so "casual"..but to most i know..it is. They seem to have no issues with it (guys AND girls)..*shrugs* I keep my safe distance.

For those of you whom are curious..here in south florida especially..these types of actions are more than everyday occurances for people. We have higher than normal drug usage as well as a much lower starting age for kids to start doing "that". It saddens me...but what can i do? Sometimes I feel im part of the problem, playing in this band supporting rebelious actions as well as free will for all ages, but then i realize its been going on even before i moved here in 1997..i just didnt SEE it as frequently.

I will admit i do have many "un-wholesome" moments, but i am always prepared to pay for my actions, no matter what they are. That usually keeps me in check

What can you do, you ask? Actually use the fact that you are in a band that reaches "rebellious" teenagers and maybe talk to them, or even (through music) demonstrate that there are consequences to actions; and that "rebellion" does not belong in a vacuum. It has context. Find a church or civic organization, or even a friend you know, and "mentor" an at-risk kid.

I think the thing that most informs your comments here is the fact that you are aware of the "drama" that comes from irresponsible behavior. There is a difference between rebellion for righteousness sake, and irresponsible acts. Just like the "civil disobedience" of the '60s: It was rebellion that had positive context. But it becomes silly and eventually irresponsible if it simply tells kids to break the rules, period. That just gets people hurt.

Which gets me to "judgement." It is entirely right to judge others' actions; it just needs to be a just and fair judgment. A cavalier attitudes toward s*x affects others: it creates "drama" for all involved that eventually hurts; and it creates the potential for a baby -- bringing another life cavalierly into the mix.

I am all for freedom and diversity in many things; this, however, is something that affects others and puts many people at risk down the road -- emotionally and physically (with a baby). That is why it "saddens" you: you know that it ultimately hurts these kids and that is all you need to know to make a proper "judgement" about it.

 

[NowInc]

Originally posted by prberk
What can you do, you ask? Actually use the fact that you are in a band that reaches "rebellious" teenagers and maybe talk to them, or even (through music) demonstrate that there are consequences to actions; and that "rebellion" does not belong in a vacuum. It has context. Find a church or civic organization, or even a friend you know, and "mentor" an at-risk kid.

I think the thing that most informs your comments here is the fact that you are aware of the "drama" that comes from irresponsible behavior. There is a difference between rebellion for righteousness sake, and irresponsible acts. Just like the "civil disobedience" of the '60s: It was rebellion that had positive context. But it becomes silly and eventually irresponsible if it simply tells kids to break the rules, period. That just gets people hurt.

Which gets me to "judgement." It is entirely right to judge others' actions; it just needs to be a just and fair judgment. A cavalier attitudes toward s*x affects others: it creates "drama" for all involved that eventually hurts; and it creates the potential for a baby -- bringing another life cavalierly into the mix.

I am all for freedom and diversity in many things; this, however, is something that affects others and puts many people at risk down the road -- emotionally and physically (with a baby). That is why it "saddens" you: you know that it ultimately hurts these kids and that is all you need to know to make a proper "judgement" about it.

Sadly..if i were to promote wholesomness and morals...we'd lose probobly half our fanbase, and thus id be out of a job. I know by not preventing it i might as well be SUPPORTING it, but i also gotta eat too ya know.

 

[Shaman]

Originally posted by prberk
What can you do, you ask? Actually use the fact that you are in a band that reaches "rebellious" teenagers and maybe talk to them, or even (through music) demonstrate that there are consequences to actions; and that "rebellion" does not belong in a vacuum. It has context. Find a church or civic organization, or even a friend you know, and "mentor" an at-risk kid.

I think the thing that most informs your comments here is the fact that you are aware of the "drama" that comes from irresponsible behavior. There is a difference between rebellion for righteousness sake, and irresponsible acts. Just like the "civil disobedience" of the '60s: It was rebellion that had positive context. But it becomes silly and eventually irresponsible if it simply tells kids to break the rules, period. That just gets people hurt.

Which gets me to "judgement." It is entirely right to judge others' actions; it just needs to be a just and fair judgment. A cavalier attitudes toward s*x affects others: it creates "drama" for all involved that eventually hurts; and it creates the potential for a baby -- bringing another life cavalierly into the mix.

I am all for freedom and diversity in many things; this, however, is something that affects others and puts many people at risk down the road -- emotionally and physically (with a baby). That is why it "saddens" you: you know that it ultimately hurts these kids and that is all you need to know to make a proper "judgement" about it.

The rebellious attitude of which you speak, feeds off the older generations' imposition of hypocritical morals.

(I think I woke up on the wrong side of bed this morning, all my posts seem so negative)

*drinks an espresso, takes in the beautiful morning*

:wave:

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Your having a giraffe, teenagers are supposed to be rebellious and stroppy, its their job. Well that and to provide storage locations for zits.

As for Angelina, to this old duffer shes babealicious, but I dont think I have too much to fear from her predatory activities.