A Stormy Day.

ghostygreeter

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For those of you who work in the parks or happened to be there today (April 30) were in for a bad storm. I was visiting and planning on roaming in MK, but the storm ruined my plans. My main reason for posting this was that the Judge's Tent Flooded today. I work there tomorrow, so I won't know till then what will happen and if they can get all the water out. Mickey's room was even beginning to flood! It was a lot of water!
 

ToTBellHop

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Originally posted by Hurricane
Welcome to a Florida Summer

It's certainly not the worst of the worst...last August, after only 15 minutes of INTENSE rain that came out of NOWHERE (THAT is the Florida summer--unpredictable rain), there were about 6 inches of water in some areas at MGM...my feet were so drenched...I wore sandals the rest of the week...soggy feet in soggy socks really suck.
 

ISTCrew20

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May 1st...today....there was rain like all day, and its noon and im looking out the window of my schools drafting class...ok there goes the bell
 

Hurricane

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Florida rain was about a month ago when after 1/2 hour of rain my car was under a foot of rain, ruined my shifter assembly (thank god for extended warranty). I remember being at the Dade county fair (State type fair in Miami) when i was a kid and wading through thigh high water after only an hour rainstorm
 
so the rain we were suppose to get her in Jacksonville went to disney. I would rather it been here so i could mowthe yar today but it raining in Jax so i cant :p
 

Moustronaut

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Originally posted by ghostygreeter
My main reason for posting this was that the Judge's Tent Flooded today. I work there tomorrow, so I won't know till then what will happen and if they can get all the water out. Mickey's room was even beginning to flood! It was a lot of water!

I guess that happens sometimes if drains get clogged with leaves or flowers or other stuff.

We were at Epcot sitting at the umbrella tables at the San Angel Cantina outside of the Mexico pavilion during an October rainstorm. We weren't getting wet, but the basin formed by the curb and the buildings was slowly filling with rain water. So we thought it best to move elsewhere.
 

Captain Cab

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Originally posted by DogsRule!
It's certainly not the worst of the worst...last August, after only 15 minutes of INTENSE rain that came out of NOWHERE (THAT is the Florida summer--unpredictable rain).

The only thing predictible about Florida weather is that with a few exceptions (hurricanes, fronts, etc.) the weather will always be unpredictable. The safe thing to assume is that rain and/or thunderstorms will happen just about every afternoon in the summertime.

Anybody care to guess why all of the rainfall?

The answer is by the very location of WDW itself. As most of you should know, central Florida has two major bodies of water (Gulf of Mexico to the west, Atlantic Ocean to the east), and each of them are about an hour away from WDW. As a result pretty much all of Florida has an atmosphere that is chuck full of moisture 24/7. There's just a neverending stream of moisture from groundwater evaporation on the ground and from the oceans nearby.

Now that the atmosphere is full of moisture, why does it only seem to rain in the afternoon and evening? Why won't it rain like that in the morning?

There can at times be thunderstorms and large amounts of rainfall during the morning. However, the vast majority of those cases are from organized storms systems such as fronts (warm, cold, stationary and occluded) and the occasional hurricane. It is rare for an individual storm cell to go from nothing to everything during the morning hours.

The main reason for the storms to develop in the afternoon is from one of Florida's most famous features --- good ol' Florida sunshine. In order for clouds to develop it is important for the moisture to rise up into the atmosphere and condense. One way is to force it up by ground terrain such as forcing it up mountains. Since there are no mountains in Florida, the air has to be risen by another means --- sunshine and daytime heating. An important thing to remember is that the atmosphere is heated from below, that is, from the ground up. Basically, the sunshine heats up the ground to high temperatures, much of the heat is reflected off the ground into the sky, and the heated air molecules rise up into the atmosphere. The molecules then rise up, condense, become saturated with moisture, collide with other molecules, eventually form clouds, and ultimately gain enough mass to fall back onto the earth as rain.

What about those pop-up thunderstorms and periods of heavy rainfall?

This process is kinda technical, so here goes nothing! During the overnight and morning hours the atmosphere basically "settles down", and a layer of air will form at some point (usually pretty low) overhead. This layer is called the CAP, and it's critical to the development of these storms. The CAP basically prevents the atmosphere from rising, and it's pretty much why you won't see many (if any) low to mid-level clouds in Florida during the summer. In order to break through the CAP, the air is going to need a lot of energy. This energy is called CAPE, and is pretty much a measure of potential energy at that point in the atmosphere. CAPE is simply a combination of moisture and heat, so the more moisture and hotter the atmosphere, then the more CAPE is available.

An important thing is that the CAP cannot be too strong or too weak. If it's too strong then the air molecules will not break through the barrier and the storms will never develop. Too weak and the air molecules will break through too early, and it won't have enough energy built up to actually form the thunderstorms.

The storms usually develop between 3 and 6 pm because that's when the maximum temperatures occur during the day. By that time of day the air is heated to a maximum and is already full of moisture. At that time the CAPE will be near its peak and should easily be able to break though the CAP. Once it breaks through the air rises very rapidly and quickly develop into storms. With lots of energy, very large storm clouds can develop, and those large clouds are the ones mainly responsible for heavy rainfall, thunder, lightning and hail. These storms are so powerful that they can literally develop in a matter of minutes (usually 20-30). The good thing is that these storms usually don't last for long, and most are usually gone from the area within an hour to two.

As always, whenever in Florida (or anywhere in the southeast for that matter) be ready to head for cover during the afternoon during the summertime as you never know exactly when or where these storms will develop.

Any questions?
 

ghostygreeter

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Well the Judge's Tent was in operation today, however, it was very musty and a little soggy... In some spots you could smell the mildew. It'll hopefully go away soon!
 

Shaman

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Originally posted by Captain Cab
Once it breaks through the air rises very rapidly and quickly develop into storms. With lots of energy, very large storm clouds can develop, and those large clouds are the ones mainly responsible for heavy rainfall, thunder, lightning and hail.
Any questions?


I heard somewhere (can't remember where exactly) that Central Florida (don't know about the full state) is in something called the "Lightning (or is it thunder) Alley", kind of like the Tornado Alley only with ligthing and thunder not tornadoes....maybe that would explain the really loud thunder I hear over at Disney when I visit in the summer.

Don't foget your rain gear when headed to Disney in the summer!!! :wave:
 

Moustronaut

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Originally posted by objr
I heard somewhere (can't remember where exactly) that Central Florida (don't know about the full state) is in something called the "Lightning (or is it thunder) Alley", kind of like the Tornado Alley only with ligthing and thunder not tornadoes....

Yea, central Florida has the highest concentration of lightening strikes in the US, if not North America. That's why everything in Florida has lightening rods all over it.

NOAA or the Weather Channel posted a map of lightening strike densities. Florida was clearly the highest.
 

Captain Cab

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Originally posted by objr
I heard somewhere (can't remember where exactly) that Central Florida (don't know about the full state) is in something called the "Lightning (or is it thunder) Alley", kind of like the Tornado Alley only with ligthing and thunder not tornadoes....maybe that would explain the really loud thunder I hear over at Disney when I visit in the summer.

Yes, "Lightning Alley" stretches across central Florida from Tampa to Titusville (Kennedy Space Center). Central Florida is the lightning capital of the U.S. Kinda makes you wonder why IOA decided to build so many outdoor rides, and then only to have most of the park closed whenever the usual Florida thunderstorms appear. Here are some lightning information links (link #1, and link #2), and here is a link to a real-time lightning map for the entire state of Florida.

As for the "really loud thunder" you hear at Disney, that just means that the storm is close to your location. It just seems louder than usual because chances are likely the storm either developed really close to you, or moved to your area at a high rate of speed. Since there was no previous thunder to warn you, the storm is able to surprise many people and the initial thunder sounds louder than usual.

As for the tornadoes, believe it or not but Florida is part of the legendary "Tornado Alley". Although not physically bordering the central U.S., the state is third in number of tornadoes each year. "Tornado Alley" is roughly from central Texas all the way up into South Dakota, and this region records the most number of tornadoes in the U.S. each year. Here's a link for more information.

Another tornado hot spot in the U.S. is from Arkansas to Georgia. This region is known as "Dixie Alley". Although this area doesn't record as many tornadoes as in "Tornado Alley", the tornadoes are often times more powerful than the ones in the central U.S. The storms in the central U.S. are usually known as HP (high precipitation) supercells. These HP cells are usually very tall, produce lots of precipitation and form many tornadoes, but the actually tornadoes are usually on the low end of the Fujita Scale. On the other hand, the southeast U.S. usually form LP (low precipitation) supercells. These cells are usually lower in hieght than the HPs, don't produce as much precipitation or as many tornadoes, but the tornadoes are usually on the high side of the Fujita Scale.
 

Irrawaddy Erik

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Originally posted by ghostygreeter
For those of you who work in the parks or happened to be there today (April 30) were in for a bad storm. I was visiting and planning on roaming in MK, but the storm ruined my plans. My main reason for posting this was that the Judge's Tent Flooded today. I work there tomorrow, so I won't know till then what will happen and if they can get all the water out. Mickey's room was even beginning to flood! It was a lot of water!
AGAIN jeez it always floods in there...... last aug. we had to bring Mickey to the Hall of Fame for three days. Now that is fun. LOL :hammer: Oh well Toontown always seems to be under water when it rains.
 

kvan

New Member
Originally posted by ghostygreeter
Well the Judge's Tent was in operation today, however, it was very musty and a little soggy... In some spots you could smell the mildew. It'll hopefully go away soon!

Hope you did have a nice first day at your new job at WDW
:wave:
 

Shaman

Well-Known Member
Originally posted by Captain Cab
As for the tornadoes, believe it or not but Florida is part of the legendary "Tornado Alley". Although not physically bordering the central U.S., the state is third in number of tornadoes each year. "Tornado Alley" is roughly from central Texas all the way up into South Dakota, and this region records the most number of tornadoes in the U.S. each year.

Now that you mention it I do remember a while back a somewhat large twister cutting right through Downtown Miami. They had awesome pics on the news of the twister and in the background, the "skyscrapers", people (myslef included) are so use to seeing these things in rural areas, that it was amazing to see one cut right through Downtown. Anyways thanks for the info, I didn't know Florida was #3 in terms of Tornadoes each year. :wave:
 

toystoryma

Member
I was in disney last week and tuesday nights rainstorm filled up Epcots entrance and bus parking lot. My husband and I got our sneakers drenched with water! It was up past our ankles, I was with the kids thankfully they didnt get thier feet wet (in the stroller) but it was a site to see! I took a pic of dh treading thru the walkway to the entrance to Epcot lol.. It was something I'll never forget.

Wednesday we also went to Epcot and It rained almost all day. We spent most of the day in the indoor rides and future world, but over near Mouse Gears store smelled horrible, like a sewer overfilled or something. Everyone was running out of the way over there lol...


But the rain didnt stop us from having any disney fun! Just got a little wet loll...
 

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