A SeaWorld San Diego Thread, Because I Just Visited and Wanted to Talk About It

Nirya

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We don't really have a SeaWorld thread (or we do but I'm not bothering to look for it) but I did get to visit the park this past weekend, and had some general thoughts.

Initially I had some thoughts about the cost to attend (it was $90 a ticket presale, and $110 at the gate for a Saturday) but after doing some more looking around, I guess that price seems generally fair. It is more expensive than Knotts and Six Flags online, which I feel are better values, but it's not unreasonable on its face given the mix of rides and animal exhibits/shows. They also have some discounts floating around - for example, I was able to get a free yearly pass for being a teacher - so there are ways to save here. Parking, however, was wildly expensive ($35 a car) and was a red flag for how the rest of the day was going to go.

SeaWorld is a fascinating mashup of a park. The coaster lineup is surprisingly strong, with two of the coasters (Manta and Emperor) comfortably sitting in my Top 10 for the entire state. Manta is just as excellent as the reviews describe it, being fast-paced with great airtime and an excellent layout that doesn't let up the entire time. Emperor has that impressive dive, but what I like about it is that it actually has a good layout once you get past that feature element, with great G-forces throughout. I was thoroughly surprised by Artic Rescue; I figured I would find the family coaster merely enjoyable, but the layout and train design (you essentially sit on jetskis) turned into a really good ride that I wish I had done multiple times. Electric Eel is the weakest of the four, but a lot of that might be due to my general dislike of the Sky Rocket model. It's still a good ride, but that line can feel miserable.

Notably, Journey to Atlantis was not open but was going through technical runs with water weights. I was happy to see they aren't abandoning this ride and are instead updating it, as it's a wholly-unique ride in California.

One thing I will say for SeaWorld is that their attention to safety was surprisingly thorough. This may be the only park I've seen where the seatbelt sensors are visible to people standing in line, so you can feel comfortable before it's your turn to ride. Similarly, the ride operators were clearly taking their jobs seriously from the front entrance of the line all the way to the station. It was a surprising touch, especially given what I've seen at other theme parks in the same vein (hell, I went to Belmont Park the day before to ride the Giant Dipper coaster, and they had one employee doing everything).

I saw both the orca and dolphin shows, and they were both as good as I anticipated. It is weird to watch these shows in a post-Blackfish world, and SeaWorld clearly understands this, as so much of the shows now focus on conservation and how the animals at the park cannot be returned to the wild and instead are used in studies to better understand how they behave and their bodies function. There are still plenty of jumps and splashes (the orcas in particular are true jerks, but in the best way possible), but it's definitely a different show than it was back in the 90s when I last visited the park.

The rest of the exhibits were hit and miss. The Artic exhibit was a real highlight; it's clearly the newest one, and they put a lot of detail into set design and environment. On the flip side, the penguin exhibit was nice for the thought put into creating a dark atmosphere for the animals (given it is mostly night in their native habitats at this moment), but the viewing was suboptimal at best. I walked out of the shark exhibit because it was an overcrowded, humid mess, as was the turtle exhibit.

Which now gets me to why my thoughts were mixed on SeaWorld: everything is wildly expensive. We're talking above Disney prices here; the cost for a bottle of soda was $9, a plain hot dog was $15, and full meals were even more. This wouldn't be a problem if the food quality was above and beyond, but it was excessively bad. And SeaWorld loved to nickel-and-dime all kinds of things; they have a front-of-the-line pass that was around $50 extra (and also unnecessary given the crowd size, but I didn't buy it anyway) and there are all sorts of high-priced animal meets that took up considerable real estate. SeaWorld gives the story of how the money goes towards conservation, but that doesn't stop the whole thing from feeling like highway robbery.

My biggest question for SeaWorld is what comes next? There are whole parts of this park that feel empty, and the park has such a weird mix of attractions and shows that I'm not sure who this park is really for. The pricing also feels excessively high for everything, especially for a park that feels like it should target locals much more than it does.
 

DLR92

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I haven gone to Sea Worlds in decades. And BlackFish documentary made my desires less. I am shock to hear is cost as much as Disneyland. And I think Disneyland for a single day ticket is too much.
 

PiratesMansion

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This really tracks with my experiences with the SeaWorld parks as of late. I still find some value there-I enjoy the atmosphere, the landscaping in spots, the setting, the coasters-but the park is considerably worse than it was even during my first visit in 2017.

For all that people criticize Disney's food offerings, the pricing is honestly pretty fair and reasonable now and most items are still of reasonable quality. The SeaWorld/Busch Gardens parks used to have a reputation for having above-average food, and in my early visits, they delivered. Post-2020, they really and truly gutted almost everything interesting from their menus, jacked the prices up, and added a mandatory surcharge for every order.

Rides that were once free (the Skyride) became an upcharge unless you were a season passholder.

SeaWorld is the ONLY park operator that didn't have moveable lockers as of my last visit a few years ago, which made coaster riding annoying. I'm glad you had a good experience with their operators, as I've found typically slow and indifferent ops there.

Emperor is a great ride, but has all the presentational appeal of a Six Flags coaster built in 2000. No shade, no decor, nothing to make the wait more pleasant or that reveals the attention to detail still seen in queues like Manta that used to be a hallmark of the brand.

Price gouging is everywhere and blatant-you can't even open the website without being offered a deal or two. When I had a season pass a few years ago, there was no option to cancel my pass online-I had to call. Very shady.

I think most of the exhibits are still decent, but the shows...to be honest, I'm not really sure how to talk about the shows from a present context. I suppose understand why they've taken the approach they have, but I find them to be quite boring, as if they're afraid being entertaining will offend someone; it feels like they're apologizing for still doing them. They're completely lifeless, which is a problem when the park is largely thrill rides or shows with little else to offer. I remember going to the SeaWorld in Texas a few years ago, and the only show that had any life in it whatsoever was the closing ski and fireworks show-the only one in the park without any animals in sight. None of the enthusiasm from any of the other shows was coming from anyone older than single digits. I don't have an easy answer for them, but I don't feel like the shows need to be boring just because they're educational. Now, perhaps I'm in the minority and most people enjoy the shows even now. Other people who have been to SeaWorld (any of them) recently, what do you think of the shows? Am I right or wildly off base?

They just keep building coasters and more coasters, and because of that coaster dorks have been weirdly reluctant to criticize them even as the park experience continues to decline. It doesn't strike me as sustainable, and is very much emblematic of a chain that doesn't know where they're headed. As much as Disney does a lot people don't like, or could be better, I find parks like SeaWorld do a lot to make current Disneyland look pretty good in comparison.
 

Nirya

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This really tracks with my experiences with the SeaWorld parks as of late. I still find some value there-I enjoy the atmosphere, the landscaping in spots, the setting, the coasters-but the park is considerably worse than it was even during my first visit in 2017.

For all that people criticize Disney's food offerings, the pricing is honestly pretty fair and reasonable now and most items are still of reasonable quality. The SeaWorld/Busch Gardens parks used to have a reputation for having above-average food, and in my early visits, they delivered. Post-2020, they really and truly gutted almost everything interesting from their menus, jacked the prices up, and added a mandatory surcharge for every order.

Rides that were once free (the Skyride) became an upcharge unless you were a season passholder.

SeaWorld is the ONLY park operator that didn't have moveable lockers as of my last visit a few years ago, which made coaster riding annoying. I'm glad you had a good experience with their operators, as I've found typically slow and indifferent ops there.

Emperor is a great ride, but has all the presentational appeal of a Six Flags coaster built in 2000. No shade, no decor, nothing to make the wait more pleasant or that reveals the attention to detail still seen in queues like Manta that used to be a hallmark of the brand.

Price gouging is everywhere and blatant-you can't even open the website without being offered a deal or two. When I had a season pass a few years ago, there was no option to cancel my pass online-I had to call. Very shady.

I think most of the exhibits are still decent, but the shows...to be honest, I'm not really sure how to talk about the shows from a present context. I suppose understand why they've taken the approach they have, but I find them to be quite boring, as if they're afraid being entertaining will offend someone; it feels like they're apologizing for still doing them. They're completely lifeless, which is a problem when the park is largely thrill rides or shows with little else to offer. I remember going to the SeaWorld in Texas a few years ago, and the only show that had any life in it whatsoever was the closing ski and fireworks show-the only one in the park without any animals in sight. None of the enthusiasm from any of the other shows was coming from anyone older than single digits. I don't have an easy answer for them, but I don't feel like the shows need to be boring just because they're educational. Now, perhaps I'm in the minority and most people enjoy the shows even now. Other people who have been to SeaWorld (any of them) recently, what do you think of the shows? Am I right or wildly off base?

They just keep building coasters and more coasters, and because of that coaster dorks have been weirdly reluctant to criticize them even as the park experience continues to decline. It doesn't strike me as sustainable, and is very much emblematic of a chain that doesn't know where they're headed. As much as Disney does a lot people don't like, or could be better, I find parks like SeaWorld do a lot to make current Disneyland look pretty good in comparison.

I actually thought the shows I saw were pretty good. The orca show did still feature a good amount of stunts, but I appreciated how they shifted the focus on learning about orcas, because they're pretty cool animals in general. You could still see vestiges of the old shows in how they kept referring to them as killer whales throughout, even though that name has started to get less usage in general, but the show reminded me of more classic Disney edutainment that sought to both entertain and educate you at the same time. The dolphin show was ok, but it also wasn't as focused on conservation and teaching you about the animals as the orca show so I'm not sure.

The locker thing...god I forgot about that. I started my day at Manta and the employee there recommended I put my drawstring bag under my sweater, so I did that for the rest of the day and was fine, but if I had to rent a locker I'd be so annoyed, especially since all the coasters outside of Manta seem to have bins you can put phones/hats/other things in at the station (Manta has separate load and unload spots, so this makes sense). But not offering free lockers is just wild.

And yeah, that's why I started the thread, because I really don't know what this park wants to be at this point. It's just a hodgepodge of different ideas united around a vague nautical theme, and could really use some focus in a specific direction.
 

celluloid

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I actually thought the shows I saw were pretty good. The orca show did still feature a good amount of stunts, but I appreciated how they shifted the focus on learning about orcas, because they're pretty cool animals in general. You could still see vestiges of the old shows in how they kept referring to them as killer whales throughout, even though that name has started to get less usage in general, but the show reminded me of more classic Disney edutainment that sought to both entertain and educate you at the same time. The dolphin show was ok, but it also wasn't as focused on conservation and teaching you about the animals as the orca show so I'm not sure.

The locker thing...god I forgot about that. I started my day at Manta and the employee there recommended I put my drawstring bag under my sweater, so I did that for the rest of the day and was fine, but if I had to rent a locker I'd be so annoyed, especially since all the coasters outside of Manta seem to have bins you can put phones/hats/other things in at the station (Manta has separate load and unload spots, so this makes sense). But not offering free lockers is just wild.

And yeah, that's why I started the thread, because I really don't know what this park wants to be at this point. It's just a hodgepodge of different ideas united around a vague nautical theme, and could really use some focus in a specific direction.

I just wanted to chime in and say they will refer to them as Killer Whales instead of Orcas because the name is more accurate.

Orca comes from Orinus Orca
The name Killer Whale is specifically a Killer Whale. The name came from at one time explorers seeing them a a top predetor who would even kill other Whales. So the name is more to mean Whale Killer.

Many Marine Biologists note that calling a Killer Whale an Orca is like saying "Primate" when you are not including others, just humans. So we don't refer to humans as primates unless we are considering all primates.

The rest of your review is just so spot on. Operations is what need a big ole change at Sea World and where it has all fallen short.

No other park of the scale open year round gives discounts and passes like United Parks do though. Lowest Tier for under 200 a year for a park and often a Fun Card for far cheaper than that. You can get all the parks in the chain and near 40 percent off of food and merch for less than 300 buck right now.
 

mickEblu

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I just wanted to chime in and say they will refer to them as Killer Whales instead of Orcas because the name is more accurate.

Orca comes from Orinus Orca
The name Killer Whale is specifically a Killer Whale. The name came from at one time explorers seeing them a a top predetor who would even kill other Whales. So the name is more to mean Whale Killer.

Many Marine Biologists note that calling a Killer Whale an Orca is like saying "Primate" when you are not including others, just humans. So we don't refer to humans as primates unless we are considering all primates.

The rest of your review is just so spot on. Operations is what need a big ole change at Sea World and where it has all fallen short.

No other park of the scale open year round gives discounts and passes like United Parks do though. Lowest Tier for under 200 a year for a park and often a Fun Card for far cheaper than that. You can get all the parks in the chain and near 40 percent off of food and merch for less than 300 buck right now.

Went for the first time in 20 years last summer. Operations was awful particularly for food. They do mobile order but don’t send you a notification for when your food is ready. I was standing in a line for about 30 minutes that was just not moving at all and this was after waiting at our table for a little while. I think they served one or two guests the whole time I was standing there. No sense of urgency with the employees and pretty much no acknowledgment of the guests in line. Would have easily been there at least another 30 minutes if I didn’t ask to speak to a manager to tell her I was going to be late for our Dolphin encounter. I will say that the fried chicken sandwich was pretty damn good for a theme park.
 
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