A few questions

djronnieb

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Original Poster
I thought I knew a ton about Walt Disney World, but after finding this website I've learned sooooo much and it's great. But I have a few questions that I had while reading some other postings here they are please answer which ever one(s) you know the answer to:

-A lot of people say bring the boat ride at Animal Kingdom how it was suposed to be. What does this mean?

-20k at MK, why and when did it close, and what besides "future" space are they building there. I would say maybe thing Little Nemo Based, since Little Nemo was the biggest hit of all time and they don't have any attractions for him. Speaking of which, does anyone know of any future plans to open up a Little Nemo attraction?

-Are there still plans to open a "Beastly World" at AK? And also I see people were talking about a dragon in some brochers for AK, I never have seen this dragon they are talking about, so if anyone has any pictures of it please share them.

-Will AK ever have a grand closing like the other 3 parks with fireworks and something like that?
 

LilDucky

New Member
hmmm... I dont really know much about the first three questions, but I dont believe that Animal Kingdom will have a grand closing like the other parks, due to the animals. I know that some of the animals dont stay out (as to how many and what animals, I dont know) because you can see some of their cages on the train ride transporting you to the Rafikis Planet Watch attraction (anyone out there... correct me if Im wrong!) but I would bet that the park would object to the idea since there is the risk of scaring the animals. Not to mention that the park closes early sometimes, so it wouldnt be dark enough for fireworks, but maybe they'll have something besides fireworks someday.
 

MissM

Well-Known Member
20k as a ride closed in 1994. It sat empty ("Fantasyland Character Festival") for ten years. In April of this year they put up the walls and started the draining and demo work. I need to update it, but you can track the process on my 20k site here: http://www.giveneyestosee.com/20k

In the near future, there are rumors of a 100 Acre Woods/Pooh landscaped play/character meet area and dozens of rumors about long term. I wouldn't put much stock in a nemo ride or overlay since they've spent all year demoing the Lagoon to reclaim it to solid, dry land.
-m
 

Number_6

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longfamily

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Beastly Kingdom was a part of Animal Kingdom that never happened. It was all planned out, models and everything, and then it was scraped. If you search the forum they have an article around here somewhere with an interview with an imagineer that was on the project. It sounded really cool. Many people (including myself) would love to see the project happen. Some of the imagineers from the Beastly Kingdom team went over to universal after the idea was put down and some rides have popped up over there that are variations of the ones originally planned for disney.
 

Sledge

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If Little Nemo is the biggest hit of all time then I am going to kill myself.

The dragon was part of the boat ride...

[I had a picture here but it ended up not working. :lol:]
 

lukacseven

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The "boat ride" people are refering to at AK was supposed to be a shuttle that would transport people from one end of the park to the other, traveling around Discovery Island (similar to the water taxi at Epcot WS). The stations and queues were put in, but I have no idea why it has ever actually opened. One station is located on the right, as you walk across the main bridge when enterign the park. I believe the second is in Asia, just across from the entrance to the Jungle Trek.

Fireworks frighten animals, small or large. So, I don't think we'll ever see them at AK.
 

Indy95

New Member
Ok, if you wanted REALLY detailed answers to your questions, here they are:

1. The boat ride that everyone is referring to is the Discovery Boat ride that traversed the Discovery River, which circled Discovery Island. Oringinally, the designers of the boat ride wanted it to be a REAL Jungle Cruise. However, in addition to a great spiel and exotic (real) animals to look at, there would also have been a "preview for Beastlie Kingdomme" (original spelling), that would have involved a giant Audio-Animatronic dragon emerging from his cave and billowing fire at the boat. But guests would not be out of the woods yet, for the boat would have also been shaken and stirred by the Leviathan in a thrilling action sequence (think Catastrophe Canyon) and dodged geysers near the new Asia expansion, while guests would have gazed upon a feeding dinosaur at the edge of Dinoland. Sounds fun, doesn't it? Well, unfortunately, things did not quite turn out so fun. First, budget cuts did not allow the Dragon or the Leviathan to be included. The Dragon was replaced by a cave with smoke billowing out of its mouth. The exotic animals were not to be included as well, but the dinosaur stayed simply because is was a figure of Aladar, plugging Disney's latest movie "Dinosaur." So guests were left with pretty much nothing. The boat ride opened as Animal kingdom did in 1998, but promptly closed six months later because guests were furious about waiting 45 minutes for such a snoozefest. It was then replaced by the "Radio Disney Cruise," which, as you can imagine, was even worse. Not only a snoozefest, but a shameless plug for Disney's latest teen stars like Hilary Duff. The boats have been closed ever since, with no hint of replacement. Now, what they SHOULD do to the boats is put back all of the original action sequences they were SUPPOSED to get. If not, then put characters or alliagtor wranglers or SOMETHING entertaining on those boats, because there is an attraction just laying dormant in a park that is notorious for not having enough attractions!

2. MissM was right on for this one. Instead of a Pooh playground, they should build the Little Mermaid dark ride that was originally planned for Disneyland Paris. It would fit so much better, be more popular, more merchandise potential, on and on and on. And Finding Nemo has been mentioned as a themed overlay for the Living Seas (replacing the Little Mermaid overlay as was originally conceived), and is now being considered as a themed overlay of the Submarine Voyage at Disneyland.

3. Beastlie Kingdomme's story is WAY too long, so here's the Cliff Notes version: BK was planned to fit in where Camp Minnie/Mickey is now, with three attractions: a dragon-themed roller coaster, a Fantasia-themed boat ride, and a Unicorn-themed maze. It was also to have some unique shops and restaurants, such as the Mother Goose shop. BK was very much going to be a part of Animal Kingdom opening day, so much so that dragons have appeared on park maps and around the entrance plaza, and there is a "Unicorn" section in the parking lot. However, due to budget cuts (natch), Imagineers were forced to choose between Dinoland and BK, and (of course) they chose Dinoland. Now, BK was supposed to be a "later expansion" to replace Camp Minnie/Mickey (which was supposed to be a temporary land), but none of the executives wanted to open Mickey's wallet and give them the money to do this. All the while, guests mercilessly complain about Animal Kingdom not having enough attractions.

4. LilDucky was right about this one; no fireworks due to animals. They COULD have had a grand nighttime parade in the Electrical Parade/SpectroMagic tradition, but whoever planned the layout of the park did not make the walkways wide enough to support such a parade. Naturally, the slick executive types have used this as an excuse as to why Animal Kingdom closes so early (they say the animals need their beauty rest), even though they actually close the park early because people run out of things to do by around 3 p.m. or earlier.
 

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