News Magic Kingdom Permits Filed for Big Al's, Westward Ho, and Churro Cart Possible Demolition

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Magic Kingdom Permits Filed for Big Al's, Westward Ho, and Churro Cart Possible Demolition

Magic Kingdom Permits Filed for Big Al's, Westward Ho, and Churro Cart Possible Demolition

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[DCBaker]

Here are the filings:

4865A CARIBBEAN WY (BIG ALS MERCHANDISE CART) - Buena Vista Construction Company - Provide labor, material and/or electrical for construction
4865B CARIBBEAN WY (WESTWARD HO) - Buena Vista Construction Company - Provide labor, material and/or electrical for construction
4865C CARIBBEAN WY (CHURRO WAGON CART) - Buena Vista Construction Company - Provide labor, material and/or electrical for construction

 

[MisterPenguin]

No! Mah Churroldhood!!

 

[HauntedPirate]

*sigh*... Churro Cart had good breakfast sandwiches.

 

[Captain Barbossa]

*sigh*... Churro Cart had good breakfast sandwiches.

The best breakfast sandwiches I’ve had on property came from places I’d least expect it.

 

[Moth]

Tying myself to Big Al's.

 

[EagleScout610]

Oh no! Big Al's has been crushed!!

 

[HMF]

I still am betting that the Frontierland name will be gone within a few years.

 

[EagleScout610]

I still am betting that the Frontierland name will be gone within a few years.

Wouldn't be shocked if it becomes Westernland like some of the other parks.

 

[HMF]

Wouldn't be shocked if it becomes Westernland like some of the other parks.

Maybe.

 

[FigmentFan82]

Except “western” implies a specific type of place, a frontier can be anywhere. I’d wager Frontierland name stays.

 

[The Rocketeer]

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Oh no! Big Al's has been crushed!!

 

[lazyboy97o]

Wouldn't be shocked if it becomes Westernland like some of the other parks.

Do people think Westernland is somehow different in its conception from Frontierland? The different name reflects differences in language, not differences in content.

 

[HMF]

Do people think Westernland is somehow different in its conception from Frontierland? The different name reflects differences in language, not differences in content.

Not necessarily, It could just indicate that it is on the Western side of the park especially if they are moving away from the 1800s frontier idea which it appears to be what they are doing. Tomorrowland has essentially been Fantasyland East for the last twenty years anyway.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Not necessarily, It could just indicate that it is on the Western side of the park especially if they are moving away from the 1800s frontier idea which it appears to be what they are doing. Tomorrowland has essentially been Fantasyland East for the last twenty years anyway.

Wut?? If that were the case then shouldn’t Tomorrowland have been renamed Easternland?

 

[HMF]

Wut?? If that were the case then shouldn’t Tomorrowland have been renamed Easternland?

Well, It would make MILF being there less jarring.

 

[castlecake2.0]

I think the name will stay, the storyline will change

 

[FigmentFan82]

Not necessarily, It could just indicate that it is on the Western side of the park especially if they are moving away from the 1800s frontier idea which it appears to be what they are doing. Tomorrowland has essentially been Fantasyland East for the last twenty years anyway.

This doesn’t make any sense. No one thinks of Tomorrowland as a Fantasyland extension

 

[DrStarlander]

Do people think Westernland is somehow different in its conception from Frontierland? The different name reflects differences in language, not differences in content.

Yes, though nuanced. Frontierland includes more sociology because the frontier was not only (a constantly moving) geographic place, but the location of a historically significant and tragic social interaction between the people coming from the East and the people who were already there. Massacres, forced removals, and other atrocities occurred precisely along "the frontier."

Westernland also refers to the geographic areas "in the West" (it's a word still centric to the European originating population of the East coast, and atrocities occurred all throughout "the West") but puts more focus just on the geography -- the compass direction -- more than the fringe of heightened violence as the European-descended migrated across North America. It's less "loaded" so to speak.

To me, neither is a good name for the area of Magic Kingdom moving forward given the mixed up time periods and geographic settings of the attractions.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Yes, though nuanced. Frontierland includes more sociology because the frontier was not only (a constantly moving) geographic place, but the location of a historically significant and tragic social interaction between the people coming from the East and the people who were already there. Massacres, forced removals, and other atrocities occurred precisely along "the frontier."

Westernland also refers to the geographic areas "in the West" (it's a word still centric to the European originating population of the East coast, and atrocities occurred all throughout "the West") but puts more focus just on the geography -- the compass direction -- more than the fringe of heightened violence as the European-descended migrated across North America. It's less "loaded" so to speak.

To me, neither is a good name for the area of Magic Kingdom moving forward given the mixed up time periods and geographic settings of the attractions.

Why people might argue for a different name is different from why Westernland as a name exists. It was considered easier for native Japanese speakers to say. That’s it. That’s why it wasn’t used for Disneyland Paris, whose Frontierland is exclusively focused on the Wild West along with a number of very western focused offerings outside the park. Even Hong Kong Disneyland was originally announced to have Frontierland. It was a decision rooted in one park with a specific audience that speaks a specific language. That it could hypothetically be used elsewhere for different reasons doesn’t change that.