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News Early Entry Eliminated at Disneyland - Will Walt Disney World Be Next?
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Disstevefan1
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Giving folks a LL costs Disney ZERO and cutting operating hours SAVES MONEY! Makes sense to me.
But it seems to me they will be handing out a lot more LLs then they used to and the LL wait times will go up.
But it seems to me they will be handing out a lot more LLs then they used to and the LL wait times will go up.
Disstevefan1
Well-Known Member
Pure guess on my part, but I guess not enough folks were taking advantage of EE at DLR and Disney could save costs by reducing hours and they think they think the park can handle the additional LLs?
I do not think this will happen at WDW since there are so many rooms there even if everyone does not take advantage of EE, there are still enough folks in the park using EE to justify paying CMs.
Also I do not think the parks in WDW could handle all the LLs they would have to hand out, again, because of so many rooms there.
I do not think this will happen at WDW since there are so many rooms there even if everyone does not take advantage of EE, there are still enough folks in the park using EE to justify paying CMs.
Also I do not think the parks in WDW could handle all the LLs they would have to hand out, again, because of so many rooms there.
Basil of Baker Street
Well-Known Member
Not a deal breaker for me. Parks are more enjoyable in the evenings anyway.
StarWarsGirl
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
Uh, I paid more for a Hilton in Anaheim than I did for Pop, and the room at Pop was WAYYY nicer. I am still so mad about that room; stuff was broken, it was incredibly dated, floor was warped...good thing I was just sleeping there.
Although the worst one was a Hilton near Dulles Airport which ran $300 a night and I found on a third party website for cheaper. I found a SHOE in the nightstand. A. Shoe. It was the next morning otherwise I'd have been asking to move rooms.
At least I know if I'm staying at Disney, there's a certain standard or Disney will make it right. I have pretty much switched to Marriott over Hilton except for certain properties where I've had good experiences with Hilton, but even so, I've noticed a decline in quality since 2020.
StarWarsGirl
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
Especially Disneyland. I love going on Jungle Cruise at night. No line and I swear the skippers lose their filters.
StarWarsGirl
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
I think a lot of people here don't have a lot of experience with DL to understand why giving an extra LL is a far better idea.
Entry is a PROCESS at DL. It's one of my major pet peeves there. No Evolv scanners; they still manually check bags. No MB tap points; they are scanning tickets and taking photos. I usually can get into a WDW park between 5-10 minutes, usually less. DL can take up to 30. So that's a lot of time wasted.
There's only three hotels. So they're opening two parks for a very limited guest set.
LLs work differently. They're basically digitized versions of original FPs. You enter, pick an attraction, and then you can get another one after two hours or when you use your LL, whichever is first. You're not doing advanced booking, a tier system, or picking three. I like this system much better, but you have to be strategic with it. Being a resort guest and getting an extra for a high demand attraction? Yeah, huge perk.
The parks also typically open at 8 am and stay open until 11 pm or midnight. For instance, today, DL is open 8 am to midnight while MK is open 9 am to 11 pm. When the entire park is open for so long, why would you need an extra 30 minutes? Especially when people generally aren't getting there early or staying late, so you can take advantage of that.
Climate is another factor I think. WDW I think a lot of people go in, go back in the afternoon for a swim or when storms roll in, nap, and come back. DL is in a desert...it can be 20 degrees cooler in the morning, and you're like, nah, I'll go out when it's warmer. Unless it's like today apparently and 90 something, but if you're in grey May, you're like "nope."
Just different there is all.
dmc493
Well-Known Member
It is a different experience that's true, but this swap is a garbage sell. There's the experience factor of having the park to yourself, and this daily perk getting replaced with a one-time coupon for one lightning lane that un-experienced visitors will potentially waste on a ride where it isn't needed is the shame.
Something tells me they're very aware of the bad reaction people will have to it, but it won't affect ticket sales or room bookings so they don't care. With only three hotels, off-property guests definitely are a higher % of daily park guests and this doesn't affect them at all.
Something tells me they're very aware of the bad reaction people will have to it, but it won't affect ticket sales or room bookings so they don't care. With only three hotels, off-property guests definitely are a higher % of daily park guests and this doesn't affect them at all.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Did you pay $300 for a Hilton across from pop?
Because if not…it’s a false equivalency
TheMaxRebo
Well-Known Member
I get not thinking early entry there was worth than much, but having that for every day vs just 1 LL for your stay does not seem like an even trade
If it was 1 per day, then I could see it being a better option
If it was 1 per day, then I could see it being a better option
Don’t improve the entry process, remove the hotel guest benefit. Save a few bucks in the process.
Sounds like par for the Bob & Josh course.
Sounds like par for the Bob & Josh course.
phillip9698
Well-Known Member
Like everyone else said, should be 1 LL per day. That way everyone gets their daily perk.
I was never an early entry person so that perk was useless, i always wanted to stay later. I would have loved that extra LL.
I was never an early entry person so that perk was useless, i always wanted to stay later. I would have loved that extra LL.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
It’s better than nothing…which is what they would like to “give”
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Excellent points!
TheMaxRebo
Well-Known Member
we spoke to 100% locals who weren't staying on property and not a single one of them used this perk they weren't eligible for!!! Clearly we can get rid of it!
surfsupdon
Well-Known Member
This I agree with.
Get rid of the 30mins.
Force more into purchasing LL.
I mean, if Disney truly cared about THEIR Resort Guests, they would not extend early entry to offsite hotels. Make it exclusive to on property!
StarWarsGirl
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
I paid $150 for Pop, and it was clean. I really don't expect a hotel, especially an upper tier Hilton, to have a SHOE in the nightstand. I actually haven't been happy with Hilton for that reason lately. Even the Hilton Hawaiian was not up to what I'd expect for that price. I've been happier with Marriott, but I digress.
I travel a good bit and have a pretty good idea of price ranges for hotels. I cannot knock Pop Century. You have Skyliner access and can easily get to DHS and Epcot (I am a fan of the Skyliner... especially since my parents are DVC members and own at Beach Club. Much easier to get to DHS than the stupid boat). The buses at the value resorts run better than the deluxe resorts. The food at Pop is actually really good. They have 24 hour mug refill stations. The only negative thing I can really say is they tend to put the teenagers there. I will sometimes upgrade to preferred for that reason.
I also am not paying sticker price...I paid $150 for Pop on my last trip as I said, then one night at Contemporary for just over $300 (I got upgraded to the main tower...that will never happen again). I got a bounce back rate and splurged for BC for just about the same rate. That pool area...
I think what does make Disney resorts stand out is the staff. The staff at other hotels can be great, but Disney staff are always fantastic. The staff at the Hilton Head Island DVC location KNOW MY NAME. I mean, I have been there with my parents a good bit, but to learn my name? That's next level. I've also had staff at BC remember me as well. The only other hotel where that happened was a Fairfield in San Diego, but honestly, that hotel was a unicorn. Their staff was great and it was a gorgeous property.