News New Kid Zones and Character Experiences Coming to Walt Disney World Summer 2025

Cmdr_Crimson

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In Other words making dead zones where many (like myself) get away from said crowds and make them busy...
  • Storybook Circus will offer extra activities tailored for younger kids. Probably using the seating area adjacent to Pete's silly Sideshow.
  • Tomorrowland will include new experiences themed to Stitch. My guess they will be either Using the preshow area from SGE or The TL Stage area..
  • EPCOT will launch a Goofy-hosted party and play space inside CommuniCore Hall - If Innoventions East was still around it would have been there
I have a feeling come August most of this will vanish due to cuts after EU has been open and the holiday events start rolling in.
 

Ayla

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These new ticket deals and offerings are a short-term plan until we get things up and open.

They obviously failed horribly at their "anti-Epic" strategy to have something of substance ready this year.

While I can't defend Disney's lack of inaction, I will say that it's a smart play at trying to take advantage of UOR's incoming attendance boom. With UOR pricing Epic Universe at a premium, its easy to see a family of 4 opt to do 1-day at Epic and 2-3 days at WDW if it ends up being better financially.
The preschool crowd isn't EU's target audience.
 

Jrb1979

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Not even a few months ago people were talking about how they were bothered that Disney was building too many thrill attractions and not doing enough for younger guests, but now that they're specifically doing things for younger guests, it's unwelcome? Sure, this isn't going to be appealing to anyone who isn't in that target age range, but that target age range is likely going to really enjoy all this and they deserve to have some fun too while their older party members are off on rides.
I welcome this addition. I'm sure my 5 year old would love it. In a vacuum it's a great addition to the park.

In general with this, all the new discounts, the refurb of Buzz Lightyear, it feels like they are throwing things out there due to soft bookings. Hoping that something works. It comes of desperate to fill rooms and the park.
 

bmr1591

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I genuinely don’t understand how many of you don’t understand that Disney never had an anti-Epic strategy. Do you really think they should have had this bold strategy to open an entire new land for the press to completely drown out its hype with Epic hype? Unless Disney was looking to open a 5th gate in 2025, they were never going to compete for headlines. What Disney is doing is an intentional strategy to surrender this year (because people aren’t going to care what you’re building when Epic just opened), let the hype die down, and once it does, they’ll have Tropical Americas, Monstropolis, and Frontireland opening, with Villains on the horizon.

Im not entirely sure what yall were hoping Disney might do this summer to counter Epic, but it wouldn’t be a smart business strategy. Now, do I wish they’d do some rare character weeks to push in some passholders? Sure. But they were never going to open something major and let it be a whimper in comparison to an entirely new theme park down the road.
 
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Andrew25

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I genuinely don’t understand how many of you don’t understand that Disney never had me anti-Epic strategy. Do you really think they should have had this bold strategy to open an entire new land for the press to completely drown out its hype with Epic hype? Unless Disney was looking to open a 5th gate in 2025, they were never going to compete for headlines. What Disney is doing is an intentional strategy to surrender this year (because people aren’t going to care what you’re building when Epic just opened), let the hype die down, and once it does, they’ll have Tropical Americas, Monstropolis, and Frontireland opening, withVillains on the horizon.

Im not entirely sure what yall were hoping Disney might do this summer to counter Epic, but it wouldn’t be a smart business strategy. Now, do I wish they’d do some rare character weeks to push in some passholders? Sure. But they were never going to open something major and let it be a whimper in comparison to an entirely new theme park down the road.
I've said it in the past here, Disney gets far more media coverage than UOR does for anything. So something major at WDW wouldn't necessarily be ignored, it would be silly though.

They should have had something in the works for next year of significance.
 

Sir_Cliff

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I genuinely don’t understand how many of you don’t understand that Disney never had an anti-Epic strategy. Do you really think they should have had this bold strategy to open an entire new land for the press to completely drown out its hype with Epic hype? Unless Disney was looking to open a 5th gate in 2025, they were never going to compete for headlines. What Disney is doing is an intentional strategy to surrender this year (because people aren’t going to care what you’re building when Epic just opened), let the hype die down, and once it does, they’ll have Tropical Americas, Monstropolis, and Frontireland opening, with Villains on the horizon.

Im not entirely sure what yall were hoping Disney might do this summer to counter Epic, but it wouldn’t be a smart business strategy. Now, do I wish they’d do some rare character weeks to push in some passholders? Sure. But they were never going to open something major and let it be a whimper in comparison to an entirely new theme park down the road.
Yes, it really wouldn't be a smart move for Disney to throw a lot of money at somehow trying to crush Epic during its first year. What do they really gain by that? It's not going anywhere whether it struggles or is a smash hit in year 1 and it is an open question whether even if it opens to sell-out crowds this is a net negative for Disney.

For all my problems with Disney management, what they're doing seems a lot smarter: pull the levers of pricing and add some relatively minor new offerings to keep attendance stable and have things ready to go in the coming years once the hype dies down in the hope of growing attendance. Presumably, they also hope there will be less economic uncertainty by the time these things start to open, but that's not necessarily by design.

This announcement isn't aimed at me, but a strategy to encourage people to bring young children makes sense if they are thinking longterm about the importance of nostalgia to their theme park business. I imagine their surveys show price and lack of activities for younger kids (too small for the rides, etc.) come up on surveys as reasons not to bring them, so these seem like lateral responses. As an aside, I did notice HKDL very directly catered to younger children, with lots of little play areas scattered around the park which also seemed smart to me.
 

Jrb1979

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Yes, it really wouldn't be a smart move for Disney to throw a lot of money at somehow trying to crush Epic during its first year. What do they really gain by that? It's not going anywhere whether it struggles or is a smash hit in year 1 and it is an open question whether even if it opens to sell-out crowds this is a net negative for Disney.

For all my problems with Disney management, what they're doing seems a lot smarter: pull the levers of pricing and add some relatively minor new offerings to keep attendance stable and have things ready to go in the coming years once the hype dies down in the hope of growing attendance. Presumably, they also hope there will be less economic uncertainty by the time these things start to open, but that's not necessarily by design.

This announcement isn't aimed at me, but a strategy to encourage people to bring young children makes sense if they are thinking longterm about the importance of nostalgia to their theme park business. I imagine their surveys show price and lack of activities for younger kids (too small for the rides, etc.) come up on surveys as reasons not to bring them, so these seem like lateral responses. As an aside, I did notice HKDL very directly catered to younger children, with lots of little play areas scattered around the park which also seemed smart to me.
For the most part I agree with what you said. The timing is what question. Had they announced all this back at D23 as new offering for the summer it would make more sense.

Like I said earlier, with this and the discounts they keep announcing, it feels like their bookings are softer than they had hoped. They throwing whatever they can out there in hopes it will get people to come. What gets me with these discounts and things like this, is the majority of people book their Disney trip months in advance. Disney is not a last minute vacation for many. IMO it makes a lot more sense to put these things out 6 months ago.
 

bmr1591

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For the most part I agree with what you said. The timing is what question. Had they announced all this back at D23 as new offering for the summer it would make more sense.

Like I said earlier, with this and the discounts they keep announcing, it feels like their bookings are softer than they had hoped. They throwing whatever they can out there in hopes it will get people to come. What gets me with these discounts and things like this, is the majority of people book their Disney trip months in advance. Disney is not a last minute vacation for many. IMO it makes a lot more sense to put these things out 6 months ago.

Why would they announce a Goofy dance party in Communicore at D23? Why would they announce summer ticket deals at D23? All of this falls in line with the timing of when they'd normally announce deals and relatively small offerings to plus the experience for families already attending. No one is booking a trip because of the Goofy dance party, but for a family already there, it may be a nice reprieve for their kids to let off some steam while mom and dad sit in air conditioning.
 

Raineman

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Bold Strategy Cotton GIF by MOODMAN


Feeling a slow summer I assume?
I think you can almost guarantee a slow summer (or slow-ish, anyway), just based on the craziness happening in the US right now-specifically a possible recession and the massive drop in visitors from Canada and Europe. Disney is gonna need to come up with everything they can think of to try to draw in more people (of course, lowering prices is not an option, as we are all very much aware).
 

Jrb1979

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Why would they announce a Goofy dance party in Communicore at D23? Why would they announce summer ticket deals at D23? All of this falls in line with the timing of when they'd normally announce deals and relatively small offerings to plus the experience for families already attending. No one is booking a trip because of the Goofy dance party, but for a family already there, it may be a nice reprieve for their kids to let off some steam while mom and dad sit in air conditioning.
I view these things differently. I don't view this dance party as something they added just cause or as a plus for those already visiting. It's not some gift as thank you to those visiting this summer.

IMO this just goes along with all the discounts they throw out there cause they are having trouble filling rooms and the parks this summer.

My belief is Epic isn't raising all boats like Disney had hoped. They are throwing everything that can out there in hopes something works to get those numbers up.
 

Piebald

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It would actually be such a fun little win this summer if they brought out some not-easily-spotted characters. But now we're going on almost 20 years of the same
They won't do this because

A) Disney Adults and vloggers would just fill up with massive lines if they did this (see the free villains event which was pure chaos)

B) they can just add random ticketed events with the characters
 

bmr1591

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I view these things differently. I don't view this dance party as something they added just cause or as a plus for those already visiting. It's not some gift as thank you to those visiting this summer.

IMO this just goes along with all the discounts they throw out there cause they are having trouble filling rooms and the parks this summer.

My belief is Epic isn't raising all boats like Disney had hoped. They are throwing everything that can out there in hopes something works to get those numbers up.

A Goofy dance party isn't selling vacation packages and isn't influencing anyone but the .00001% of diehard Goofy fans to book anything. They wanted something in Communicore this summer, so they decided to put a kid-friendly option in there to give parents a reprieve during the hot day. They already have someone hired to play Goofy/Stitch, so it's costing them nothing extra to bring those characters out for these things. This isn't an attempt to fill rooms. Discounts are, but this isn't. If they desperately needed to fill rooms by adding some fun offerings in the parks this summer, they'd have rare character weeks, special after hour parties like Disneyland is having, bigger perks for staying on property rather than off.
 

AidenRodriguez731

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A Goofy dance party isn't selling vacation packages and isn't influencing anyone but the .00001% of diehard Goofy fans to book anything. They wanted something in Communicore this summer, so they decided to put a kid-friendly option in there to give parents a reprieve during the hot day. They already have someone hired to play Goofy/Stitch, so it's costing them nothing extra to bring those characters out for these things. This isn't an attempt to fill rooms. Discounts are, but this isn't. If they desperately needed to fill rooms by adding some fun offerings in the parks this summer, they'd have rare character weeks, special after hour parties like Disneyland is having, bigger perks for staying on property rather than off.
Exactly what Ive been saying. They are tacking on some nice extras to increase guest experience. If anything, this is 100% in line with their strategy that EU will boost their numbers too. They want to make families who come to both (but may spend a shortened trip at WDW) think "Hey that Universal park was super packed and there wasn't all that much to do for little Timmy, but MK was packed with rides and Epcot had the adorable dance party that Little TImmy couldn't get enough of. Maybe next year will be a Disney trip!" That's their plan.
 

easyrowrdw

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This announcement isn't aimed at me, but a strategy to encourage people to bring young children makes sense if they are thinking longterm about the importance of nostalgia to their theme park business. I imagine their surveys show price and lack of activities for younger kids (too small for the rides, etc.) come up on surveys as reasons not to bring them, so these seem like lateral responses. As an aside, I did notice HKDL very directly catered to younger children, with lots of little play areas scattered around the park which also seemed smart to me.
One of the things we enjoyed about Disneyland were the play areas in Toontown. My kids aren't even that young, but they loved it. I wish Disney would do something like that at Hollywood Studios.
It would actually be such a fun little win this summer if they brought out some not-easily-spotted characters. But now we're going on almost 20 years of the same
You still see them outside Hollywood Studios or other off-the-beaten path spots from time to time. I agree though. It would definitely be nice if they were more regular or if there was just more variety.
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
One of the things we enjoyed about Disneyland were the play areas in Toontown. My kids aren't even that young, but they loved it. I wish Disney would do something like that at Hollywood Studios.

You still see them outside Hollywood Studios or other off-the-beaten path spots from time to time. I agree though. It would definitely be nice if they were more regular or if there was just more variety.
That would be nice, even though my kids have aged out of most of that. But Josh and Jeff would have to actually care to make it happen.
 

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