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[Disstevefan1]

Fwiw. I have a buddy who has been in parks since Saturday. Telling me posted wait times have been consistently off each day in each park.

Its super rare the posted wait time is correct,

For whatever reason Disney simply cant post accurate wait times.

 

[Purduevian]

Its super rare the posted wait time is correct,

For whatever reason Disney simply cant post accurate wait times.

I think we've had this discussion before... if I remember right...

Disney has always inflated wait times and there is no statistically significant difference between how much they inflate between pre and post paid skip the line services.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I think we've had this discussion before... if I remember right...

Disney has always inflated wait times and there is no statistically significant difference between how much they inflate between pre and post paid skip the line services.

Exactly why I said for whatever reason they cant post accurate wait times and for whatever reason (if true) they intentionally inflate wait times.

 

[Splash4eva]

Its super rare the posted wait time is correct,

For whatever reason Disney simply cant post accurate wait times.

I just find it funny that they all were incorrect by posting times longer then they actually were… like its almost a mathematical impossibility to be always wrong in the same direction. Lol

 

[Purduevian]

I just find it funny that they all were incorrect by posting times longer then they actually were… like its almost a mathematical impossibility to be always wrong in the same direction. Lol

Apparently they inflate it ~84% of the time. I can't seem to find the post, but if I'm remembering right... it has nothing to do with LLMP or LLPP and Disney has just always done that.

That's another - and interesting - question:

When we have an actual wait time, what percent of the time is it lower than the posted? And what percent of the time is it higher?

When we have an actual:

• The average posted wait is 45 minutes
• 84% of the time the actual is lower than the posted wait, by ~14 minutes
• 13% of the time the actual is higher than the actual wait, by ~8 minutes
• 3% of the time it's exactly the actual wait

 

[Splash4eva]

Apparently they inflate it ~84% of the time. I can't seem to find the post, but if I'm remembering right... it has nothing to do with LLMP or LLPP and Disney has just always done that.

Listen im not saying its being done to make money and im not saying the opposite. All im saying is its being done intentionally for whatever reasons Disney has

 

[Purduevian]

Listen im not saying its being done to make money and im not saying the opposite. All im saying is its being done intentionally for whatever reasons Disney has

That I can agree with. This past trip I did not get LLMP at AK. ~5 mins before closing Na'vi said 45 min wait. I even asked the cast member at the front if they thought it was accurate, they said yes. 12 mins later I was sitting in my boat.

 

[bmr1591]

Listen im not saying its being done to make money and im not saying the opposite. All im saying is its being done intentionally for whatever reasons Disney has

To take the positive angle, it always feels better for a guest to see 40 minutes and it only be 30. It feels awful to see 30 minutes and it be 40.

 

[Splash4eva]

To take the positive angle, it always feels better for a guest to see 40 minutes and it only be 30. It feels awful to see 30 minutes and it be 40.

Altho i do not disagree with you but its simply false advertising. It also can deter people from going on a ride

 

[TheMaxRebo]

I think we've had this discussion before... if I remember right...

Disney has always inflated wait times and there is no statistically significant difference between how much they inflate between pre and post paid skip the line services.

I think it makes sense to slightly inflate times as if you post it at 30 mins and they wait 25 mins they are happy. It you post it at 20 mins and they wait 25 they are unhappy.

Plus this "cushion" allows for some small downtime if it happens

That doesn't excuse they drastically inflating it and when there is a money reason that could be a motivating factor it makes it feel wrong in a way it didn't before

But I don't think any big deal if finding they are consistently 10-20% inflated

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Plus if you overinflate the longer lines it could push people to shorter lines to help spread the crowds

So multiple reasons to overinflate them a bit

 

[co10064]

Wait times at nearly all headliners are inflated before closing time. They generally won’t decrease the posted wait time within the last 30 minutes leading up park close (sometimes longer).

This has been going on for several years (yes, even prior to paid FastPass), likely as a way to discourage people from hopping in line at the last second (more cost to Ops).