Price hike coming 10/9

Rroe

New Member
I'd be very curious to know if anyone out there has ever heard of Disney World prices going down??? Use to be to go to Disney one had to get a second job........now maybe a third.
 

Cliff

Well-Known Member
Here is Disney's financial strategy for the parks:

Raise ARPU (average rate per user)

Here is how it goes.

1.) Average parks attendance is in decline. (This is a fact, not a rumor. Disney themselves tell investors this)
2.) Raise ARPU by raising tickets, hotels and retail prices to RECOVER and COMPENSATE for lost revenue.
3.) Cut daily operations and maintenance spending to balance the books. (less spent = less loss)

When parks attendance decline further? Raise ARPU more and more and spend even less and less on operations. Every time attendance drops further and further, just wash, rinse and repeat the ARPU increase cycle over and over again.

The parks do NOT need more attendance!! Disney just needs to extract more revenue from each of the people left that DO go.

This is a bulletproof strategy that will always keep Disney ahead of the declining attendance.

Some argue that this leads to poor customer satisfaction after they return home to the high bill and reflect on what they spent that money on. I don't really buy into that idea though. People love this brand and will pay whatever is necessary to get that Disney experience.

Pretty smart, if you ask Burbank.
 
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John park hopper

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When company has product people are no longer buying as they used to they reduce the cost of said product and they streamline their business and improve the product. I guess that business model Disney is exempt from ---declining attendance raise prices across the board on everything attendance declines as a result --raise prices
 

JD80

Well-Known Member
When company has product people are no longer buying as they used to they reduce the cost of said product and they streamline their business and improve the product. I guess that business model Disney is exempt from ---declining attendance raise prices across the board on everything attendance declines as a result --raise prices

People are still buying.
 

monothingie

Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
Premium Member
The parks do NOT need more attendance!! Disney just needs to extract more revenue from each of the people left that DO go.

This is a bulletproof strategy that will always keep Disney ahead of the declining attendance.
But they've been doing this since the mid/early 2010's and now the fruits of their genius are ripening.

As demonstrated by the situation they're in right now, with being BEHIND their declining attendance, it doesn't work as a long term solution.

They mythological high margin guests is an endangered species they're chasing after at the expense of the regular guests who they are driving away in droves.
 

Prince-1

Well-Known Member
I’m more of a mayo person on fries. Luckily they don’t charge extra for that.

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JD80

Well-Known Member
But they've been doing this since the mid/early 2010's and now the fruits of their genius are ripening.

As demonstrated by the situation they're in right now, with being BEHIND their declining attendance, it doesn't work as a long term solution.

They mythological high margin guests is an endangered species they're chasing after at the expense of the regular guests who they are driving away in droves.

It's not declining, you just bought another AP.
 

Cliff

Well-Known Member
But they've been doing this since the mid/early 2010's and now the fruits of their genius are ripening.

As demonstrated by the situation they're in right now, with being BEHIND their declining attendance, it doesn't work as a long term solution.

They mythological high margin guests is an endangered species they're chasing after at the expense of the regular guests who they are driving away in droves.
Yes,...Disney has always been raising it's prices to stay in line with their general product demand. However, it's being said that Disney has now gotten "in front" of that demand and is now suppressing that demand.

When people love a brand, they WILL often pay more for it...just out of sheer goodwill and admiration for that brand.

However, if that brand "love" dies or the goodwill fades, suddenly people will question weather that brand is "worth it" anymore....and they will NOT spend a premium tax for that product is that happens.

In short,..Disney CAN charge a high-dollar cost and get away with it "if" people "love" that brand enough to do that. They know it's expensive but their brand love or brand "LOYALTY" persuades them to do it.

If that brand loyalty dies?.....what happens then?

Exactly,...you guessed it,...that brand is SCREWED.
 
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jeanericuser001

Well-Known Member
I'd be very curious to know if anyone out there has ever heard of Disney World prices going down??? Use to be to go to Disney one had to get a second job........now maybe a third.
That happened during the 80s and 90s for a brief period as both universal and disney fought a serious battle that included discounted tickets, coupons, and seasonal specials.
 

akileese

Member
So let me ask y'all this:

Acknowledging that Disney is going to prioritize shareholders and make decisions that help the bottom line more than the guest experience, what do you think Disney should do that would allow them to lower costs (or keep them where they are for years), but still earn higher ROI for their stock price?

Shareholder value and guest satisfaction are are two completely incompatible things. Even if it works out in the short term, they eventually deviate because guest costs will continue to rise and in order to maintain shareholder value. The things that would improve guest satisfaction significantly all require an increase in operational expense, which is something that stockholders are allergic to (labor, maintenance, etc). If they really wanted to improve the guest experience and lower guest cost, they'd spin experiences off as a private company, but that would never happen for a number of reasons, the most important being its the only thing keeping Disney as a whole in the black.
 

Nottamus

Well-Known Member
The people who start going today, have no idea of 2009, 2019, or the 90s

They go, spend the $$$, feel magic- as we head to the exit. They are happy- we go away.

Somewhere in the future - someone will remember when the refillable mug (now 4 ounces) was only $49.99
 

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