Rumor Hall of Presidents Replaced by Muppets American History Show???

Cliff

Well-Known Member
You can ask. Some of us keep track of these things.

Notice how unfounded rumors are attacked for being... unfounded. And when a source is asked for, there is no clear source.

There's a lot of people with willing gullibility, like all those who believed that the company was cancelling Walt or that Kennedy was about to be fired for the past decade. There were no credible sources for those rumors. Low level company employees don't count as sources. Iger doesn't invite them to C-Suite meetings. But people believe and repeat the unfounded rumor because they want it to be true.

It's a larger problem in our society, too.

Hold on,...just because a source can't be revealed doesn't always mean the information is 100% bad. People get fired for leaking. People talk that are under contractual NDA. There are OFTEN consequences for leaking.

Journalists on every major news network will report "rumors" from government "sources" but MUST protect their sources at all cost. Remember 'Deep Throat" from Watergate? There are a trillion other examples in history.

YES!...people inside Burbank leak! But you can't snitch them out! Nobody want's to get fired!! I have friends in Orlando and Anaheim that tell me stuff I would NEVER publically rat them out on.

One of Journalism's biggest rules is PROTECT YOUR SOURCE. So....just because you see any rumor in life that does not have a source attatced to it that "you" deem as credible...does NOT mean it's automatically a lie.

Everybody's task in life is to take in information every single day and figure out weather it's true or false. That job is yours until the day you die. Just take in the rumor, process it and choose to believe it or not...or stick it in your "maybe" box.

Sort it the best "you" can....and THEN ALSO let others do that same thing or themselves.
 
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GimpYancIent

Well-Known Member
Disney is allowed to promote or suppress ANY message they choose. They are free to do whatever they want and they have no obligation to be impartial to any social debate. The Hall of Presidents does NOT belong to Disney's customers,...it belongs to Burbank and they can rightfully send ANY message they want.

Burbank is free to modify, mutilate or destroy any or ALL attractions if they feel like it doesn't suit them any longer. We as customers can't do anything about it.

If you like what Burbank is doing to the company and it's legacy, then spend more money at Disney. If you don't like what Burbank is doing?....then turn your back and spend your money somewhere else.

The rule of "cause and effect" will take it's course.....

cause and effect​

noun

pluralcauses and effects

: the direct relationship between an action or event and its consequence or result
Absolutely correct - Ultimately the customer, guest, visitor or tourist does send a message.
"If you don't like what Burbank is doing?....then turn your back and spend your money somewhere else."
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Absolutely correct - Ultimately the customer, guest, visitor or tourist does send a message.
I just got back from 9 days at Disney where the parks and restaurants were packed, we had a hard time finding parking at the resorts and people seemed to be happy and having a great time.

The customers/guests/visitors/tourists are definitely sending a message.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Hold on,...just because a source can't be revealed doesn't always mean the information is 100% bad. People get fired for leaking. People talk that are under contractual NDA. There are OFTEN consequences for leaking.

Journalists on every major news network will report "rumors" from government "sources" but MUST protect their sources at all cost. Remember 'Deep Throat" from Watergate? There are a trillion other examples in history.

YES!...people inside Burbank leak! But you can't snitch them out! Nobody want's to get fired!! I have friends in Orlando and Anaheim that tell me stuff I would NEVER publically rat them out on.

One of Journalism's biggest rules is PROTECT YOUR SOURCE. So....just because you see any rumor in life that does not have a source attatced to it that "you" deem as credible...does NOT mean it's automatically a lie.

Everybody's task in life is to take in information every single day and figure out weather it's true or false. That job is yours until the day you die. Just take in the rumor, process it and choose to believe it or not...or stick it in your "maybe" box.

Sort it the best "you" can....and THEN ALSO let others do that same thing or themselves.
I said, "Good day."
 

Lilofan

Well-Known Member
I just got back from 9 days at Disney where the parks and restaurants were packed, we had a hard time finding parking at the resorts and people seemed to be happy and having a great time.

The customers/guests/visitors/tourists are definitely sending a message.
The stock market is at all time highs and it’s a great thing to take some profits and enjoy vacation time !
 

Cliff

Well-Known Member
I just got back from 9 days at Disney where the parks and restaurants were packed, we had a hard time finding parking at the resorts and people seemed to be happy and having a great time.

The customers/guests/visitors/tourists are definitely sending a message.
Burbank saying that their attendance has been down and expected to stay down for the next 18 months comes from a long-term "aggregate" calculation. You can't go on a busy time or slow time and make any judgment based on those days. Yes, there ARE crazy-busy days and there ARE empty days too. It's the monthly or quarterly or yearly "average" that Burbank is explaining to investors that are clearly down.

Another calculation that Burbank watches is: How does October 2024 perform against the last 5 or 8 Octobers in past years. They watch and map that for every month and quarters across multiple years. etc...etc...

None of us can go to a Disney Park and judge how Disney Parks are doing based on what "WE" can see. For either good OR bad.

Only Burbank can calculate those numbers,...and yes, Burbank is CLEAR to investors that Parks are down month vs. month, year vs. year.

I'm 100% sure that Burbank would NOT lie to us about this.
 

Chi84

Premium Member
Burbank saying that their attendance has been down and expected to stay down for the next 18 months comes from a long-term "aggregate" calculation. You can't go on a busy time or slow time and make any judgment based on those days. Yes, there ARE crazy-busy days and there ARE empty days too. It's the monthly or quarterly or yearly "average" that Burbank is explaining to investors that are clearly down.

Another calculation that Burbank watches is: How does October 2024 perform against the last 5 or 8 Octobers in past years. They watch and map that for every month and quarters across multiple years. etc...etc...

None of us can go to a Disney Park and judge how Disney Parks are doing based on what "WE" can see. For either good OR bad.

Only Burbank can calculate those numbers,...and yes, Burbank is CLEAR to investors that Parks are down month vs. month, year vs. year.

I'm 100% sure that Burbank would NOT lie to us about this.
I'll try the "good day" thing too.
 

Cliff

Well-Known Member
There is a 0% chance of Iger approving this.

The Hall isn’t going anywhere.

As far as the talk of Disney removing Americana from the parks, well that won’t be happening either.

If anything I would expect more patriotism in the parks as we move towards 250 years.
I super, duper hope you are right! That would be amazing!!
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
Good news! In about an hour, I can add my 5 cents!
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MrHappy

Well-Known Member
I just got back from 9 days at Disney where the parks and restaurants were packed, we had a hard time finding parking at the resorts and people seemed to be happy and having a great time.

The customers/guests/visitors/tourists are definitely sending a message.
Probably seemed pack, but with actually low volume. When you lower attraction capacity, the parks seem busier, when you block room inventory, the resort gets sold out.
Maybe, maybe not. Good to hear guest satisfaction was very good.
 

JD80

Well-Known Member
Burbank saying that their attendance has been down and expected to stay down for the next 18 months comes from a long-term "aggregate" calculation. You can't go on a busy time or slow time and make any judgment based on those days. Yes, there ARE crazy-busy days and there ARE empty days too. It's the monthly or quarterly or yearly "average" that Burbank is explaining to investors that are clearly down.

Another calculation that Burbank watches is: How does October 2024 perform against the last 5 or 8 Octobers in past years. They watch and map that for every month and quarters across multiple years. etc...etc...

None of us can go to a Disney Park and judge how Disney Parks are doing based on what "WE" can see. For either good OR bad.

Only Burbank can calculate those numbers,...and yes, Burbank is CLEAR to investors that Parks are down month vs. month, year vs. year.

I'm 100% sure that Burbank would NOT lie to us about this.

Go read the attendance thread.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member

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