EPCOT New GEO-82 Spaceship Earth Lounge Coming to EPCOT

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think we are all just beyond tired of upcharges and every inch of the park being monetized. This one is slightly less offensive since it’s very optional and won’t matter much if you don’t do it, but it follows a pattern.

Amen brother, sister

Even if the customer LIKES something…10 years of beating the same horse starts to smell

 

[HauntedPirate]

I think we are all just beyond tired of upcharges and every inch of the park being monetized. This one is slightly less offensive since it’s very optional and won’t matter much if you don’t do it, but it follows a pattern.

There's a part of me that wonders... is there a heat map somewhere in the halls of TDO that shows monetary generation in the parks?

Red = zero revenue generation
Orange/yellow = underutilized for monetary generation
Green = Yeah, that's the spot...

"What's that giant red blob at MK?"

"Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island, my liege"

'Well, we need to change that! What's that red blob there, in that Epcot park thing?"

"The Spaceship Earth post-show lounge?"

"We could sell alcohol there. Alcohol makes us a lots of profit."

 

[Disstevefan1]

There's a part of me that wonders... is there a heat map somewhere in the halls of TDO that shows monetary generation in the parks?

Red = zero revenue generation
Orange/yellow = underutilized for monetary generation
Green = Yeah, that's the spot...

"What's that giant red blob at MK?"

"Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island, my liege"

'Well, we need to change that! What's that red blob there, in that Epcot park thing?"

"The Spaceship Earth post-show lounge?"

"We could sell alcohol there. Alcohol makes us a lots of profit."

 

[harryk]

Just the price to enter turns me off. For what? finger snacks?? Overhead view of the fireworks - not for that price.

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

There's a part of me that wonders... is there a heat map somewhere in the halls of TDO that shows monetary generation in the parks?

Red = zero revenue generation
Orange/yellow = underutilized for monetary generation
Green = Yeah, that's the spot...

"What's that giant red blob at MK?"

"Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island, my liege"

'Well, we need to change that! What's that red blob there, in that Epcot park thing?"

"The Spaceship Earth post-show lounge?"

"We could sell alcohol there. Alcohol makes us a lots of profit."

Wait, do you think there's even the slightest chance that this doesn't exist?

I mean do you honestly think there is even a chance a business the size of WDW doesn't have a chart/graphic/some data presentation metric that identifies revenue generating areas/facilities and their revenue/cost/profit per square foot?

Do you think there is any successful business that doesn't have that information readily available and isn't analyzing it at least bi-annually?

 

[Disstevefan1]

Wait, do you think there's even the slightest chance that this doesn't exist?

I mean do you honestly think there is even a chance a business the size of WDW doesn't have a chart/graphic/some data presentation metric that identifies revenue generating areas/facilities and their revenue/cost/profit per square foot?

Do you think there is any successful business that doesn't have that information readily available and isn't analyzing it at least bi-annually?

You are absolutely right.
Disney's theme park business is about MAKING MONEY!
Its not about the guest experience, theme, quality or even BASIC MAINTENANCE, its about quarterly profits!!!!!!

If folks want guest experience, theme, quality they can go to EPIC

I only wish Disney's theme park business would talk to Disney's movie business.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Just the price to enter turns me off. For what? finger snacks?? Overhead view of the fireworks - not for that price.

Unless you want the fireworks viewing package there is no price to enter

During most times just make a reservation and pay for what you order (if anything)

 

[KDM31091]

There's a part of me that wonders... is there a heat map somewhere in the halls of TDO that shows monetary generation in the parks?

Red = zero revenue generation
Orange/yellow = underutilized for monetary generation
Green = Yeah, that's the spot...

"What's that giant red blob at MK?"

"Rivers of America and Tom Sawyer Island, my liege"

'Well, we need to change that! What's that red blob there, in that Epcot park thing?"

"The Spaceship Earth post-show lounge?"

"We could sell alcohol there. Alcohol makes us a lots of profit."

It really does seem like it. If it’s not monetized, via an up charge, LL, food, merchandise, away it goes.

 

[aladdin2007]

I think we are all just beyond tired of upcharges and every inch of the park being monetized. This one is slightly less offensive since it’s very optional and won’t matter much if you don’t do it, but it follows a pattern.

well said

 

[aladdin2007]

It really does seem like it. If it’s not monetized, via an up charge, LL, food, merchandise, away it goes.

Agree, now they are getting their hands on the GF lobby with focus on alcohol,, more lobby's to come no doubt.

 

[Disstevefan1]

 

[Nubs70]

"Its not about the guest experience, theme, quality or even BASIC MAINTENANCE, its about quarterly profits!!!!!!"

Until Iger, Walt and his successors have been lying to us.

 

[Bocabear]

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nobody ever drinks free at WDW...lol More like Tuesday is Bob's night...all drinks $3 upcharge with free Disney swizzle

 

[Disstevefan1]

Until Iger, Walt and his successors have been lying to us.

You think the lying STOPPED with Iger

I think Walt sincerely cared about guest experience, theme, quality, legend has it, Walt would fight about spending money to correct, redo things with his brother Roy.

 

[FiestaFunKid]

So much for the fun theming or epcot history nods on the menu - going for a more generic elegant touch with drinks like 'Manhattan in the Morning' and offerings like Lump Crab Gateau.

Admittedly, theming the menu was a bit more risky with the potential to be obvious or hokey - but I would have preferred that b/c I like my disney to be different vs whats typical outside. Maybe they are matching the theming to the sterile new world celebration spine.

 

[Epcot82Guy]

So much for the fun theming or epcot history nods on the menu - going for a more generic elegant touch with drinks like 'Manhattan in the Morning' and offerings like Lump Crab Gateau.

Admittedly, theming the menu was a bit more risky with the potential to be obvious or hokey - but I would have preferred that b/c I like my disney to be different vs whats typical outside. Maybe they are matching the theming to the sterile new world celebration spine.

Bar Helios at Universal just did this, and it works really well. The food is just named, but the drinks have a lean to the theme. And, it's still sophisticated. The names don't have to be blatant. I don't need a Figment Scale or Moana's Old Fashioned. It can be nods where someone who doesn't know won't realize. But, a theme to a lounge in a theme park seems to be very important. Let alone with the plethora of material they could have drawn from.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Self-referencing not only isn’t theming, it erodes theming.

 

[Disney Analyst]

I'm partially assuming it's such a high price due to limited supply. I can't imagine that many tables will fit by the windows with a view.

 

[FiestaFunKid]

Self-referencing not only isn’t theming, it erodes theming.

I think it depends on the execution. I get it with CommuniCore Hall with it's geodesic exterior and decals for little thematic reason outside of a call back and it feels like they self reference b/c they are too lazy to create new ideas - but I think you can do it in a clever way.

And truthfully, even if executed horribly, the effort would probably more interesting than this utterly bland menu, including such ubiquitous airport lounge staples as 'Chef’s Selection of artisanal cheeses'.

 

[tanc]

Going to be there the 5th, going to try and get a spot! Probably won't be successful though haha