MK Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[nickys]

Streets of America was just... scenery. You got three times as much between SWL and GE.

You mention the two attractions that got replaced.

You failed to mention they were replaced by *four* attractions.

TSL and GE also took over BoH area. The footprint for guests *expanded* and the number of attractions *expanded*.

SoA used to be used. It’s fine to not count it as an attraction, but it was a reminder of the Studio part of the park’s name.
The giant Coke “fountains n” was another fun thing that got removed. Something that little kids loved, that didn’t require waiting in a queue to ride.

And we also lost Jedi Training and March of the First Order when GE opened. Not because the space was needed but because they “didn’t fit” the story. IMO for no good reason. Kids loved Jedi Training, it was a rite of passage for some (youngest had to wait until his 2nd trip to be able to do it).

So they basically got rid of a bunch of stuff primarily aimed at young kids.

TSL is but all it has are 2 rides. No playground , no little diversions for them.

Disney parks used to be about more than just rides but not so much anymore.
DHS has nowhere for kids to play. MK is following suit, although there’s still the Dumbo play area and up by FL station.
AK has lost the boneyard.
How long before the trains and jumping fountains at Epcot get removed?

 

[ᗩLᘿᑕ ֊ᗩζᗩᗰ]

SoA used to be used. It’s fine to not count it as an attraction, but it was a reminder of the Studio part of the park’s name.
The giant Coke “fountains n” was another fun thing that got removed. Something that little kids loved, that didn’t require waiting in a queue to ride.

And we also lost Jedi Training and March of the First Order when GE opened. Not because the space was needed but because they “didn’t fit” the story. IMO for no good reason. Kids loved Jedi Training, it was a rite of passage for some (youngest had to wait until his 2nd trip to be able to do it).

So they basically got rid of a bunch of stuff primarily aimed at young kids.

TSL is but all it has are 2 rides. No playground , no little diversions for them.

Disney parks used to be about more than just rides but not so much anymore.
DHS has nowhere for kids to play. MK is following suit, although there’s still the Dumbo play area and up by FL station.
AK has lost the boneyard.
How long before the trains and jumping fountains at Epcot get removed?

All the more reason why I'd wish they'd build a Gravity Falls themed walk-through Mystery Shack attraction and play area in Frontierland to make up for the loss of Splash Mountain's play structure and the greater loss of TSI. Would be a good IP to bridge Old West with Cars' Pacific Northwest. But...

 

[solidyne]

[...] we could say that the opinion of seniors, as adults with experience and taste

Music to my ears!

are more reliable than for pre-schoolers.

Oh.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

One thing that would have made the removal of the Liberty Belle less egregious is if they still had real steamboats on the Seven Seas Lagoon. That would lessen the sting a bit.

 

[easyrowrdw]

Net gains, schmet gains. Ya don’t have to destroy something in order to get something new. Tron, Rat…great! But MMRR, Frozen, Tiana, Monsters, Indiana Jones… It’s ridiculous.

 

[James Alucobond]

Net gains, schmet gains. Ya don’t have to destroy something in order to get something new. Tron, Rat…great! But MMRR, Frozen, Tiana, Monsters, Indiana Jones… It’s ridiculous.

The problem has been the balance, not that replacement and/or slight net gains are necessarily wrong in every instance. Tomorrowland is an example where there are definitely enough attractions (aside from shuttered Stitch), but significant refreshing or replacement is needed for at least two-thirds of the attractions.

 

[SamusAranX]

A playground wasn’t a ride and the theatre closed years earlier

Agreed on the playground but the theater is a particularly egregious example of Disney’s bait and switch. Close or leave an attraction to languish and by the time is replaced it seems like it’s an expansion not a replacement (see primeval whirl for example)

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

A playground wasn’t a ride and the theatre closed years earlier

I never said the playground was a ride. It was an attraction.

All the parks used to have playground type areas - now only MK does I believe. Although Epcot does seasonally for some of the festivals.

The theatre was still being used at least seasonally - I saw Comedy Warehouse the same night I said goodbye to Osbourne lights.

 

[eddie104]

Agreed on the playground but the theater is a particularly egregious example of Disney’s bait and switch. Close or leave an attraction to languish and by the time is replaced it seems like it’s an expansion not a replacement (see primeval whirl for example)

I’m sorry defending Primeval Whirl is atrocious and speaks volume to the constant goal post moving on this thread.

 

[easyrowrdw]

The problem has been the balance, not that replacement and/or slight net gains are necessarily wrong in every instance. Tomorrowland is an example where there are definitely enough attractions (aside from shuttered Stitch), but significant refreshing or replacement is needed for at least two-thirds of the attractions.

For sure. I don’t think replacements are wrong in every instance. Pandora seems like an example of a replacement that worked well. I think lack of updates is also a problem, but this thread is about a planned destruction and replacement so that was my focus.

 

[SamusAranX]

I’m sorry defending Primeval Whirl is atrocious and speaks volume to the constant goal post moving on this thread.

How am I defending it? I never commented on its merits. I’m commenting strictly on Disneys inability or lack of desire to expand capacity truly. It’s uncommon. Stitch’s great escape was a terrible attraction and has been languishing empty. But if Disney tomorrow decided to put a new attraction in that building, it would not be expansion, but merely years over due replacement of lost capacity.

YOU are the one moving goalposts sir.

 

[co10064]

All the parks used to have playground type areas - now only MK does I believe. Although Epcot does seasonally for some of the festivals.

EPCOT has the Mission Space indoor playground, and the new Tropical Americas is rumored to include a play area.

 

[eddie104]

How am I defending it? I never commented on its merits. I’m commenting strictly on Disneys inability or lack of desire to expand capacity truly. It’s uncommon. Stitch’s great escape was a terrible attraction and has been languishing empty. But if Disney tomorrow decided to put a new attraction in that building, it would not be expansion, but merely years over due replacement of lost capacity.

YOU are the one moving goalposts sir.

Several posts have already been made regarding Disney record in expansion or replacing.

You choosing to ignore it has nothing to do with me. I feel what’s being lost in this discussion is quality over quantity.

Just because the previous area had some carnival games plus a little roller coaster doesn’t make it better to what they are doing now.

What was the utilization rate for these “attractions” and are they Disney standard should be the question.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Just thought of another thing potentially lost due to Cars: this view.

Assuming the concept art is roughly the track layout, Piston Peak is gonna block Cinderella Castle and Space Mountain.

 

[donaldtoo]

Just thought of another thing potentially lost due to Cars: this view.
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Assuming the concept art is roughly the track layout, Piston Peak is gonna block Cinderella Castle and Space Mountain.

But, does it really even matter anymore…?!?!?!
Disney’s screwed up so much of their parks over recent years that it’s just redonculous…!!!!!

 

[MisterPenguin]

Just thought of another thing potentially lost due to Cars: this view.
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Assuming the concept art is roughly the track layout, Piston Peak is gonna block Cinderella Castle and Space Mountain.

You mean that from a Frontierland ride, all you'll be able to see is Frontierland attractions?

 

[donaldtoo]

You mean that from a Frontierland ride, all you'll be able to see is Frontierland attractions?

Yes, of course, because Piston Peak will be so “frontier”.

 

[Agent H]

Just thought of another thing potentially lost due to Cars: this view.
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Assuming the concept art is roughly the track layout, Piston Peak is gonna block Cinderella Castle and Space Mountain.

I hope it actually ends up being to the left of the castle.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

You mean that from a Frontierland ride, all you'll be able to see is Frontierland attractions?

Right, because everyone was complaining about the view from the top of Splash Mountain. I was always so annoyed I was seeing a castle and a spaceport while in the Deep South.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

I hope it actually ends up being to the left of the castle.

Isn't the peak to the right nearest to Country Bear Jamboree, if so what an eyesoar!