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DAK “Zootopia” is being created for the Tree of Life theater

jah4955

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Son of Flubber (The Absent-Minded Professor sequel)​
Savage Sam (Old Yeller sequel)​

Maybe Walt cared about money a little bit.
First in the 1930's, but lastly in the 1965 annual report (when Walt responded to clamours for a Mary Poppins sequel): Walt insisted: "You can't top pigs with pigs."

Those exceptions from his lifetime were relatively-easy-to-make live action movies which had high returns even if not blockbusters.

Even if an animated film would be considered a blockbuster for that time, many still lost money in their initial release because of its extreme cost (Sleeping Beauty one example)." Never mind how animated films took several years to make.

Walt loved how vaslty-easier it was to make live action vs. animation).
 
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DisneyHead123

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It seems Gen Z has Disney at 24 and Gen Alpha at 5.

Though Gen Z has Marvel studios at 13th with Marvel breaking the Gen Alpha boy subgroup’s 10th place. Historically Pixar was also ahead of Disney for Gen Z.

I think the analysis that Gen Z is a weaker generation for Disney is correct.
Can you link what you’re referencing? Not coming up with a simple Google search.
 

networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
Can you link what you’re referencing? Not coming up with a simple Google search.
| Age Range | Share of Disney+ Users |
| ----------- | ----------------------------- |
| 0–11 years | **≈ 15.2%** ([DemandSage][1]) |
| 12–17 years | **≈ 10.3%** ([DemandSage][1]) |
| 18–24 years | **≈ 16.7%** ([DemandSage][1]) |
| 25–34 years | **≈ 24.7%** ([DemandSage][1]) |
| 35–44 years | **≈ 19.2%** ([DemandSage][1]) |
| 45–54 years | **≈ 11.9%** ([DemandSage][1]) |
| 55–64 years | **≈ 7.0%** ([DemandSage][1]) |
| 65+ years | **≈ 4.7%** ([DemandSage][1]) |

[1]: https://www.demandsage.com/disney-users/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Disney Plus Subscribers Stats 2025 (Revenue & Market Share)"
 

DisneyHead123

Well-Known Member
| Age Range | Share of Disney+ Users |
| ----------- | ----------------------------- |
| 0–11 years | **≈ 15.2%** ([DemandSage][1]) |
| 12–17 years | **≈ 10.3%** ([DemandSage][1]) |
| 18–24 years | **≈ 16.7%** ([DemandSage][1]) |
| 25–34 years | **≈ 24.7%** ([DemandSage][1]) |
| 35–44 years | **≈ 19.2%** ([DemandSage][1]) |
| 45–54 years | **≈ 11.9%** ([DemandSage][1]) |
| 55–64 years | **≈ 7.0%** ([DemandSage][1]) |
| 65+ years | **≈ 4.7%** ([DemandSage][1]) |

[1]: https://www.demandsage.com/disney-users/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Disney Plus Subscribers Stats 2025 (Revenue & Market Share)"
Thanks. I’m thinking any data about specific age ranges would have to be unreliable, as it’s the parents that subscribe for kids. I know I never bothered to make my son his own profile so I don’t know how they’d track who’s watching.
 

Comped

Well-Known Member
Son of Flubber (The Absent-Minded Professor sequel)​
Savage Sam (Old Yeller sequel)​

Maybe Walt cared about money a little bit.
The two Flubber films also connect into The gy Dog (1959 version), The Return of the gy Dog (1987, but canonically happens in between the other 2) and The gy D.A. (1967). They also connect into The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes (1969), Now You See Him, Now You Don't (1972), and The Strongest Man in the World (1975) - all three being a trilogy in their own right. And that's not including the The Absent-Minded Professor's Wonderful World of Disney remake or its WWOD only sequel.

None of those Walt was alive for.
 
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jah4955

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The two Flubber films also connect into The gy Dog (1959 version), The Return of the gy Dog (1987, but canonically happens in between the other 2) and The gy D.A. (1967). They also connect into The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes (1969), Now You See Him, Now You Don't (1972), and The Strongest Man in the World (1975) - all three being a trilogy in their own right. And that's not including the The Absent-Minded Professor's Wonderful World of Disney remake or its WWOD only sequel.

Walt was alive for 2 of these (technically he died before The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes released but it was done by his death).
I was about to say yes to all...but they waited over 2 years after his passing to release "Tennis Shoes?" :oops:
 

Comped

Well-Known Member
I was about to say yes to all...but they waited over 2 years after his passing to release "Tennis Shoes?" :oops:
I am an idiot, and totally forgot Walt died in 66 and not 69. Ignore me. My brain sometimes gives out authoritative information that is about as accurate as "Can Heironymus Merkin Ever Forget Mercy Humppe and Find True Happiness?" is worthy of a Best Picture Oscar.
 

jah4955

Well-Known Member
I am an idiot, and totally forgot Walt died in 66 and not 69. Ignore me. My brain sometimes gives out authoritative information that is about as accurate as "Can Heironymus Merkin Ever Forget Mercy Humppe and Find True Happiness?" is worthy of a Best Picture Oscar.
I do things like this (at least!) daily. :)
 

Casper Gutman

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I haven’t seen it, but I think that’s unkind. There have been a few duds of late, and the people behind them really seemed to care a great deal, even if that care didn’t translate into a successful product.
The argument that the designers really cared but still produced Zootopia (or Tiana’s) is far more unkind than the one I was making.

Teams that care can make all sorts of terrible products for all sorts of reasons, but they are usually terrible in a different and more interesting way from Zootopia.

Zootopia is the most unimaginative, low-effort, clip-show product possible. The closest parallel that springs to mind might be that Narnia show MGM featured for a bit.
 

jah4955

Well-Known Member
The argument that the designers really cared but still produced Zootopia (or Tiana’s) is far more unkind than the one I was making.

Teams that care can make all sorts of terrible products for all sorts of reasons, but they are usually terrible in a different and more interesting way from Zootopia.

Zootopia is the most unimaginative, low-effort, clip-show product possible. The closest parallel that springs to mind might be that Narnia show MGM featured for a bit.
Dang. More indication this will quickly become a glorified space for air conditioning where everytone will be catching up with their phones and not paying any attention to the film :(
 

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
Premium Member
The argument that the designers really cared but still produced Zootopia (or Tiana’s) is far more unkind than the one I was making.

Teams that care can make all sorts of terrible products for all sorts of reasons, but they are usually terrible in a different and more interesting way from Zootopia.

Zootopia is the most unimaginative, low-effort, clip-show product possible. The closest parallel that springs to mind might be that Narnia show MGM featured for a bit.
Burbank thought it would be a solid hit, based on their spreadsheets. What could go wrong?
 

HMF

Well-Known Member
This looks terrible, but I doubt they didn't care. I have seen many projects over the years with teams of people who really care but for whatever reason it just doesn't work out.
I am sure the genuinely creative ones do care but the people in charge with the money tend to get their way in these cases.
 

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