Disney Treasure, DCL’s 6th ship, debuts in 2024

[CraftyFox]

I do not like actual HM show elements being used here. It's lazy. The Haunted Mansion Parlor should be HM-inspired not stuff directly lifted from the attraction. The nautical additions are nice but Madame Leota and the Ghost Host should remain tethered to the mansion.

They're a little on-the-nose but I think they're tastefully done. The paintings are pretty derivative though. I do like that they kept the Winchester Mansion inspired stained glass window!

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

It’s odd to me the DCL ships have gone from an understated ocean liner theme to heavily themed at the exact same time the Disney hotels have gone from heavily themed to understated.

How can the same company actively add theming in one division while actively removing it in another? It defies logic. Either theming is appealing to your guests or it isn’t, make up your mind.

I suspect I’m still going to prefer the earlier DCL ships but I can’t wait to get onboard the Adventure to explore all these cool new areas. I love the detail and all the theming.

I don't think its all that hard to understand. The DCL ship IS the product that people are spending their time on and experiencing when on a cruise. Given the longer history and in some cases better price points of more traditional cruise lines, DCL needs to give people a reason to choose their ships over others. The themeing is that reason. To relate it to the land experience, the themeing of the ship, restaurants, rooms, ect ARE the attractions.

On land, the Disney hotel rooms are NOT the attractions, the parks are. People already have a reason to choose on property hotels vs off property ones already outside of the theming, given easy access to parks, early entry, and other bonuses that make them preferable over off site other properties. While on a cruise the ideal for the company is keeping people on ship, using their facilities, Disney wants people in the parks. Most Disney hotels are not set up as all inclusive/resort type areas where they are looking to hold people on property. So they are putting the theming where they think they get the most ROI.

 

[Disone]

Having been on all 5 currently sailing DCL ships, the older ships are themed in a classy way. The newer ships are more heavily themed to "Disney, Disney, DISNEY!!!".

I mostly agree except for I probably would have said the first four ships are themed in a classy way. The wish is themed to Disney Disney Disney. And If I'm to be honest with myself, I think the Treasure is too but it's just doing a much better job of it. Honestly the grand parlor, The haunted Mansion lounge, the Skipper society, and even the 20K bar, all look significantly better than their artist renderings making me wonder if iger decided to loosen the purse strings just a little bit to ensure that the ship did better than the Wish?

But yes it's definitely a case of Disney Disney Dizzy versus classic theme. I too prefer the classic theme (but I'm still very excited for the treasure. )

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

Having been on all 5 currently sailing DCL ships, the older ships are themed in a classy way. The newer ships are more heavily themed to "Disney, Disney, DISNEY!!!". This is indisputable, but you're going to disagree like you always do.

You and I are never, EVER going to agree on DCL or theming, so it's best that you do not engage with my posts.

I am curious leaving aside personal taste, why wouldn’t Disney want to lean into more heavy Disney Theming for its ships? I mean they are trying to break in and now grab market share in the cruise industry. They need something that sets them apart from other options, and leveraging their IP seems the logical choice. It’s not price, as from comparisons I have done, more established commercial lines like royal caribean have better comparable price points. It’s not variety/options as right now the more established lines have bigger ships, a bigger fleet, and more offerings as far as trips and destinations. It’s not going to be the class/luxury option either as there are premium cruise lines that do that better, and given the younger/child demographic that Disney has, your likely not going to go that route (i am as big a park Disney/ip but as you can get, and while this ship might get me to try it, I have never been able to pull trigger as other lines are cheaper and like the late/great comedian John Pinnette said, “if it don’t have a buffet and a casino it ain’t sea worthy.”

So given all that, isn’t what sets a Disney Cruise apart for all the other options…Disney? Why wouldn’t you play to your strength. I mean personal taste aside, it seems strange to want to spend money on a Disney trip, but then say I don’t like it, it feels too Disney for me

 

[Two Ears]

I would like to know how anyone could define the bars, top deck of the ship, atrium as heavy disney theming. They simply aren't. They are lightly themed. One of the main complaints of the star wars lounge is that it wasn't themed enough. And it was easily the most themed bar on the wish.

The only areas that are heavily themed on the wish class are the kids club (which kids love and so do most adults) and 2 of the 3 restaurants (which are also far better for it). That's it. Nothing else.

This idea that disney wish is heavily themed is simply inaccurate. It's based on a relative comparison with the old ships and not an objective independent assessment. Read reviews of the older ships outside disney forums and the major complaint is those ships don't look like disney outside character meets and shows. The ships simply look like old Ocean liners that could be made by anyone. The disney wish class now look like ships actually owned by disney but are lightly themed overall. Certainly not heavily themed like the parks. And what exactly is wrong with heavily themed anyway?

 

[cjkeating]

I mostly agree except for I probably would have said the first four ships are themed in a classy way. The wish is themed to Disney Disney Disney. And If I'm to be honest with myself, I think the Treasure is too but it's just doing a much better job of it. Honestly the grand parlor, The haunted Mansion lounge, the Skipper society, and even the 20K bar, all look significantly better than their artist renderings making me wonder if iger decided to loosen the purse strings just a little bit to ensure that the ship did better than the Wish?

But yes it's definitely a case of Disney Disney Dizzy versus classic theme. I too prefer the classic theme (but I'm still very excited for the treasure. )

I do think the Treasure is looking better than the Wish in many places, however one thing to remember is all of the venues that haven't been updated, they are all the same and many had issues that can't be fixed due to the design of the ship.

So given all that, isn’t what sets a Disney Cruise apart for all the other options…Disney? Why wouldn’t you play to your strength. I mean personal taste aside, it seems strange to want to spend money on a Disney trip, but then say I don’t like it, it feels too Disney for me

I think for many people it is the balance... the original ships certainly are Disney... the stage shows, restaurants, entertainment, characters but they are often put in less overtly Disney settings. Remember the overarching theme of the ships was nautical/ocean liner but with a Disney twist. It was very much the Eisner way of Disney.

I would like to know how anyone could define the bars, top deck of the ship, atrium as heavy disney theming. They simply aren't. They are lightly themed. One of the main complaints of the star wars lounge is that it wasn't themed enough. And it was easily the most themed bar on the wish.

I think the problem with the Star Wars Lounge was that it was themed badly... which left people wanting more. The top decks for me are a huge issue on the Wish class.. they are mostly carbon copies of the original ships are don't work at all.

The only areas that are heavily themed on the wish class are the kids club (which kids love and so do most adults) and 2 of the 3 restaurants (which are also far better for it). That's it. Nothing else.

I have a feeling we had a discussion about this before but whether or not the restaurants are better is subjective... I personally found the Marvel and Frozen restaurants loud, cramped and unpleasant and have seen many similar comments online. With people having increasing number of sensory issues I am surprised Disney took this path.

This idea that disney wish is heavily themed is simply inaccurate.

The Wish is themed like what the parks are becoming... disjointed IP jigsaws. The classic ships were Ocean Liner with Disney which gave it a lot of room for maneuver on making Disney IP work. The new ships are Disney on a cruise ship and I don't think they are able to be immersive like the parks can be, the focus on the names 'Wish/Treasure/Destiny' just creates so many contradictions as well.