Everyone has a different value... Of course I don't like paying for it, but LLMP allows me to have the trip I want. I've been to MK twice with LLMP and both times I rode everything I wanted to and only rode a handful of small rides via standby.
Folks realize you could usually do this if they weren’t artificially extending waits by selling line-jumping, right? Lightning Lanes are largely a solution to a problem they themselves create.
I visited in 2021 about 2 weeks before G+ dropped (still no line skipping, but near full capacity). I got less done that day (with a group of only adults), than I have in all of my later trips with the aid of G+ and LLMP (including the last 2 trips with a baby or a toddler).
How should the “average guest” feel about that?
No offense to the average guest... I hope they have a magical time, but I don't really care about the average guest attraction count.
Before this, it was virtually the same system, just unpaid - so line-jumping isn’t the issue; payment is.
OK. But these conversations always devolve into, “How DARE you criticize the way I do Disney.” If your position is that you know the system makes lots of other people’s experiences worse but you don’t care, it feels like the criticism is fair game. Holding that you should be able to benefit at the expense of others AND they shouldn’t be allowed to criticize you for that seems immensely unfair.
No, the line-jumping is the issue. The payment makes it worse.
You are fair to criticize the way I do Disney. It works for me, and probably would not work for many others and fair to criticize the system...
I can not have the days I currently have without a line-jumping system in place. Eliminating is not a solution to my touring style.
And I remain dubious of that statement for many reasons. That’s fine. You have your system and I will almost certainly never have mine again.
So you complained about fast pass as well?
Of course. The parks are not built for line-jumping. It makes them worse in lots of ways. After all these years, the parks could have adapted somewhat to the system (it would still be less then ideal) but they haven’t.
IIRC, this about lines up with Len Testa’s research.
I’d rather have options, but I can’t objectively call either system unfair or a rip-off.
Do you feel the main and sole reason is because of the paid system or the fact that Disney has changed less capacity less efficiency less hours and entertainment to spread people out so on and so forth has contributed to a larger part than people would like to admit? Im curious not from just you but others.
any chance you can link to the research? I'd love to read it.
It feels like to me (and maybe only me) Disney does stuff primarily because MONEY and if the guest experience benefits, its just a coincidence. Just my opinion.
I think there is a delicate balance Disney is always right on the line. They need to keep the guest experience good enough that it doesn't affect people staying in the bubble, buying merch, eating snacks, and coming back. All while milking them as much as possible without affecting those other numbers.