Brer Panther
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To be fair, Elio isn't even out yet (though I do fear it'll be another flop... maybe word of mouth will help it like Elemental).
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MK Stitch's Great Escape Replacement— Don’t Hold Your Breath
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Maybe they should think about marketing it?
Pitiful is the work I’d use to describe the push of the movie to this point - one teaser a year ago, one official trailer last month. Snow White got so much more of a marketing push… 
aladdin2007
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while we have gotten way off thread topic here...and I know I'm going to be alone in this but have to say I actually preferred that to what we got.The Temporary version of MouseGears was what I was thinking they were going to do once they were remodeling the store..Hard to believe this is now the seating area for Connections...
DisneyHead123
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I didn’t word that well, I didn’t mean to imply Elio will be a flop… meant to say that it’s the latest in a series of Disney / Pixar sci-fi themed movies (that said, Elio does have a suspicious lack of marketing thus far, I wouldn’t know about it if I wasn’t on these boards.)
I don’t know if there’s any merch-driving franchise that would make an overhaul of Tomorrowland worth it to corporate Disney right now. Wall-E and Big Hero 6 are great but I don’t get the idea they drive sales. Stitch looks to make a bundle this summer and is a very merchandise friendly character so I have little doubt he’ll make some sort of appearance in Tomorrowland, but my guess is a theater type show. Maaaaybe the Wreck It Ralph overlay of the racetrack that’s been discussed forever or an Inside Out ride (that has nothing to do with the future but at least it looks futuristic. I guess they could frame it as about neuroscience or something.)
Nevermore525
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Based on general audience trends over nearly the last decade, TWDC would probably ask why heavily market Elio? An original animated film hasn’t earned $200M at the domestic box office since Coco in 2017. That and Elio is coming out a week after the live action remake of How to Train Your Dragon.
Even if they ramped up marketing to a high level it won’t make anything unless it blows critics and audiences out of the water. That and Disney Sci-Fi animated films have been notorious for tanking anyway.
A shot for shot live action remake with nostalgia >>>> original even without reviews as far as general audiences are concerned.
Disney is just going to let the movie make whatever it does and get it off their books with minimal fare. If it surprises, they’ll talk about it.
Disney only cares about Stitch and the Fantastic 4 so far this summer.
Even if they ramped up marketing to a high level it won’t make anything unless it blows critics and audiences out of the water. That and Disney Sci-Fi animated films have been notorious for tanking anyway.
A shot for shot live action remake with nostalgia >>>> original even without reviews as far as general audiences are concerned.
Disney is just going to let the movie make whatever it does and get it off their books with minimal fare. If it surprises, they’ll talk about it.
Disney only cares about Stitch and the Fantastic 4 so far this summer.
Shame they ran that IP into the ground.
Bocabear
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If they Tron-ify the speedway with electric cars and fantastic sets, they could also tron-ify the Tomorrowland Concourse and turn Cosmic Ray's into the "End Of The Line Club" themed restaurant....which all together would help make the placement of the Tron coaster make some sense.....
'Elemental' enters the conversation...
I'm fairly convinced Bob (both of them) has been hell-bent on ruining anything original out of Pixar for years. 'Elio' could be a hit, but I don't think Bob gives a **** about it, because it isn't Marvel, Star Wars, or a Toy Story sequel. The most risk-averse CEO in the history of TWDC and it shows.
DisneyHead123
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Out of curiosity I Googled "Disney Pixar sci-fi movies" to see what is considered part of that category. On the Disney website they list The Incredibles... wouldn't have come to mind as "sci-fi", but since they redid the Contemporary with them, they could be another contender if Tomorrowland gets an IP based update. This is all wild speculation to fill a grey rainy day of course, lol.
Bocabear
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Thing is, if it is a well designed attraction experience, IP doesn't really matter....like at all. There is no risk to putting in a really great ELio themed ride no matter how the box office does... I think a great attraction can also help bolster interest in the movie....
There are 4 parks in need of more attractions...the bigger risk is actually allowing anything in these parks to remain shuttered.....
There are 4 parks in need of more attractions...the bigger risk is actually allowing anything in these parks to remain shuttered.....
Nevermore525
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The counterpoint from TWDC is Inside Out 2.
$1.7B from a known Pixar IP Sequel vs $500M for an original. You can argue marketing, but general audiences for the most part are turning out for the more familiar or IP.
I’d like originals to perform better, but audiences just aren’t turning out for them.
Bob C for sure did Pixar dirty by pushing everything immediately to D+
SpectroBro
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Honestly, they could just take over the ice cream shop space next door and do a killer fantasyland bus/bar style stitch dark ride. We don’t need an e-ticket fix here.
Moth
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Yeah but it feels like, at least in regards to WDW, they're avoiding adding any dark ride that isn't an E-Ticket for some weird reason.
aladdin2007
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Post of the day! They want those big LL $$ I think that's all it is now ufortunately. I doubt we will ever see one of those again.
Bob and Josh know what guests want. They want E-tickets and only E-tickets. And only one E-ticket per mini-land that they green light. And nothing original, guests only want what they know.
eddie104
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Are Remy and the upcoming Carousel considered E tickets ?
Also the second Cars attraction doesn’t seem like one either.
lazyboy97o
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They don’t know how to deliver one. Costs are too high and out of control to deliver anything that won’t be expected to perform like a marquee experience.
lazyboy97o
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Ratatouille was designed as an E Ticket. It was the big thing that was supposed to help boost the profile of Walt Disney Studios Park.
A carousel isn’t a dark ride. The second Cars ride doesn’t look to be one either.
UNCgolf
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And when they do, people trash it. Na'vi River Journey is a very good (I'd say great) C ticket, but people hate it because it isn't a D or E.