DHS Toy Story Land expansion announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

[MrPromey]

Finding K'Nex in that size is very time consuming.

Plus, from what I understand, Amazon excludes it from Prime shipping, too.

 

[MisterPenguin]

And Universal built an ENTIRE NEW PARK in less than 5 years! If I was Disney, I would be embarrassed as THE theme park leader...Universal is stepping up and MAY take the number 1 position away from Disney...and sad to say, Disney deserves whatever they get!

No.

From groundbreaking to opening, it will be 6 years and 4 months. That is excluding the 8 month stoppage due to the pandemic.

 

[Agent H]

Out of all the parks with a TSL, we allegedly have the best version.

Despite how disappointed most of us were/are with it, this was apparently considered an improvement over what they'd done previously with said IP.

... To be clear, the overall concept of this, in any Disney park anywhere in the world that has it appears to be as a budget filler land rather than a well developed use of the IP. I mean, they knew what they'd done overseas so the bar seems to have already been set low for what they wanted to accomplish here in topping those while still doing it Disney-cheap and apparently they they were successful(?).

What would be a well developed use of the ip? I agree the land is under built but I don’t know what they could really do better style wise.

 

[J4546]

style wise its cool just not nearly big enough imo. You could have soo many toy themed rides and experiences. I guess im just looking at Isle of berg and thinking what could have been with TSL

 

[MrPromey]

What would be a well developed use of the ip? I agree the land is under built but I don’t know what they could really do better style wise.

For starters, not make the best attraction by a country mile for the new land be one that had existed in that spot for a decade prior and everything else being amusement park style filler?

What they did was a little like making a "new" Haunted Mansion land at MK by taking the original attraction, adding a Grim Grinning Ghosts Glider ride based on the Dumbo attraction, and then adding some other carnival-like experiene along with a food kiosk...

Like instead of (or in addition to) cloning Remy's Ratatouille Adventure in Epcot, the same concept and ride system could have been used for a Toy Story adventure rather than having the whole land being set up as something that's a little at odds with the pre-existing attraction that anchors it in style and quality.*



*And Midway Mania is screen-based in possibly the most extreme way possible so that's a bit of a low bar to begin with.

 

[Agent H]

For starters, not make the best attraction by a country mile for the new land be one that had existed in that spot for a decade prior and everything else being amusement park style filler?

What they did was a little like making a "new" Haunted Mansion land at MK by taking the original attraction, adding a Grim Grinning Ghosts Glider ride based on the Dumbo attraction, and then adding some other carnival-like experiene along with a food kiosk...

Like instead of (or in addition to) cloning Remy's Ratatouille Adventure in Epcot, the same concept and ride system could have been used for a Toy Story adventure rather than having the whole land being set up as something that's a little at odds with the pre-existing attraction that anchors it in style and quality.*



*And Midway Mania is screen-based in possibly the most extreme way possible so that's a bit of a low bar to begin with.

That would be a cool idea for a ride.

 

[Disone]

No.

From groundbreaking to opening, it will be 6 years and 4 months. That is excluding the 8 month stoppage due to the pandemic.

Wow! I honestly had not realized it had been under construction for over 6 years and that excludes an 8 month stoppage! Color me slightly surprised.

 

[GoofGoof]

No.

From groundbreaking to opening, it will be 6 years and 4 months. That is excluding the 8 month stoppage due to the pandemic.

Wow! I honestly had not realized it had been under construction for over 6 years and that excludes an 8 month stoppage! Color me slightly surprised.

I think this is more a symptom of the current shortage of workers combined with these large corporations looking to spread capital spend over multiple years. AK was the last full park Disney built in FL, announced in 1995 and opened in 1998. There is zero chance a 5th gate would take just 3 years to build today. All that being said, it’s not relevant to this discussion about taking years to add some shade. Better late than never I guess.

 

[FigmentsFangirl]

For me, just seeing K'Nex pieces in DHS makes me happy, my brother grtew up with k'nex from 1994 to 2005 and introduced me to K'Nex in 1995 and I was hooked. Just seeing K'Nex again makes me smile, does not matter the size either just seeing that Andy plays with K'nex is awesome

 

[FigmentsFangirl]

Plus, from what I understand, Amazon excludes it from Prime shipping, too.

And just to get the free shipping costs per pound for stuff that size doesnt it ?

 

[MrPromey]

I think this is more a symptom of the current shortage of workers combined with these large corporations looking to spread capital spend over multiple years. AK was the last full park Disney built in FL, announced in 1995 and opened in 1998. There is zero chance a 5th gate would take just 3 years to build today. All that being said, it’s not relevant to this discussion about taking years to add some shade. Better late than never I guess.

"These large corporations" is a euphemism for "just Disnney", right? I ask because without going down that path of pointing out the obvious counterpoints in central Florida which derail threads, they seem to be the only company seriously plagued by these issues.

That or they've just been more focused on throwing up DVC builds to sell than adding improvements they can't attach up-sells to in the parks.

 

[GoofGoof]

"These large corporations" is a euphemism for "just Disnney", right? I ask because without going down that path of pointing out the obvious counterpoints in central Florida which derail threads, they seem to be the only company seriously plagued by these issues.

That or they've just been more focused on throwing up DVC builds to sell than adding improvements they can't attach up-sells to in the parks.

The post I was quoting was taking about how Universal just spent 6.5 years building a new park there not including a nearly year long stoppage for Covid. Go back to last century and all of these companies (including Disney) built whole parks in half that time or less. Disney is more extreme for sure but it’s not just them.

 

[Fox&Hound]

For starters, not make the best attraction by a country mile for the new land be one that had existed in that spot for a decade prior and everything else being amusement park style filler?

What they did was a little like making a "new" Haunted Mansion land at MK by taking the original attraction, adding a Grim Grinning Ghosts Glider ride based on the Dumbo attraction, and then adding some other carnival-like experiene along with a food kiosk...

Like instead of (or in addition to) cloning Remy's Ratatouille Adventure in Epcot, the same concept and ride system could have been used for a Toy Story adventure rather than having the whole land being set up as something that's a little at odds with the pre-existing attraction that anchors it in style and quality.*



*And Midway Mania is screen-based in possibly the most extreme way possible so that's a bit of a low bar to begin with.

This seems unfair. Slinky Dog is a hugely popular ride that exudes charm. Yes, it could have been better in places, and I will always lament the lack of shade or lack of hidden alcoves that get you off the main path (it feels like one straight hallway of people where you can’t stop to look around), but they did not phone in the other rides.

Okay- I will give you Alien. Why the claw doesn’t move is unforgivable.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

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This seems unfair. Slinky Dog is a hugely popular ride that exudes charm. Yes, it could have been better in places, and I will always lament the lack of shade or lack of hidden alcoves that get you off the main path (it feels like one straight hallway of people where you can’t stop to look around), but they did not phone in the other rides.

Okay- I will give you Alien. Why the claw doesn’t move is unforgivable.

Honestly I loved Slinky, the little detail of going backward then forward in the launch is such a fun and cute feature of the ride that does not get enough attention.

 

[MrPromey]

This seems unfair. Slinky Dog is a hugely popular ride that exudes charm. Yes, it could have been better in places, and I will always lament the lack of shade or lack of hidden alcoves that get you off the main path (it feels like one straight hallway of people where you can’t stop to look around), but they did not phone in the other rides.

Okay- I will give you Alien. Why the claw doesn’t move is unforgivable.

I'm sorry if you think I'm being unfair to the largest media empire that has ever existed when I say they phoned it in with the other rides, I guess just Slinky in your opinion since you apparently agree with me about the other only ride added.

We'll have to agree to disagree, though. They started with the premise of putting an amusement park level ride there and then decided to add elements like a different kind of fiberglass body and some static props sprinkled around to make it seem like more than it is.

As for charm, I hardly see enough of it to justify the 60-90 minute waits in the outdoors that this thing garners but again, we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[MrPromey]

The post I was quoting was taking about how Universal just spent 6.5 years building a new park there not including a nearly year long stoppage for Covid. Go back to last century and all of these companies (including Disney) built whole parks in half that time or less. Disney is more extreme for sure but it’s not just them.

I don't know. Seems like they managed to knock the Illuminations Minions Land and Dreamworks land out pretty fast.

Those aren't whole theme parks and chunks of both were re-theming of existing structures but they're both active sections (particularly the minions) of an existing park impacting the work that could be done and while not major in scale, a whole lot more involved than an outdoor shelter like this.

Anyway, Universal announced they were building a new park on August 1st, 2019 and their official opening date is May 22nd 2025 so I'm not sure the math is mathing in your statement. You might want to go re-run those numbers.

 

[gorillaball]

I don't know. Seems like they managed to knock the Illuminations Minions Land and Dreamworks land out pretty fast.

Those aren't whole theme parks and chunks of both were re-theming of existing structures but they're both active sections (particularly the minions) of an existing park impacting the work that could be done and while not major in scale, a whole lot more involved than an outdoor shelter like this.

Anyway, Universal announced they were building a new park on August 1st, 2019 so I'm not sure the math is mathing in your statement. You might want to go re-run those numbers.

Pretty simple really, they broke ground before announcement.

 

[MrPromey]

Pretty simple really, they broke ground before announcement.

Who did?

Universal in 2019 or Disney in 1995?

I'll wait while you rush to Google to see if you can track down an exact date land clearing and reclamation began for AK in the early 90's.

Or are we judging the two by totally different standards?

 

[gorillaball]

Who did?

Universal in 2019 or Disney in 1995?

I'll wait while you rush to Google to see if you can track down an exact date land clearing began for AK in the early 90's.

Or are we judging the two by totally different standards?

Sorry, I’m not following the 1995 comment. Don’t feel the need to explain, I really don’t care.

When someone announces something is meaningless in a construction timeline. Disney certainly does themselves no favors with their early announcing everything. They build slow, and somehow manage to make it seem even slower by teasing you well in advance of dirt moving.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

I don't know. Seems like they managed to knock the Illuminations Minions Land and Dreamworks land out pretty fast.

Those aren't whole theme parks and chunks of both were re-theming of existing structures but they're both active sections (particularly the minions) of an existing park impacting the work that could be done and while not major in scale, a whole lot more involved than an outdoor shelter like this.

Anyway, Universal announced they were building a new park on August 1st, 2019 and their official opening date is May 22nd 2025 so I'm not sure the math is mathing in your statement. You might want to go re-run those numbers.

Yeah Minions Land and Dreamworks LOOKS like they knocked it out fast. Both of them are a piece of work in my experience.