The Art of Shaving opening at Disney Springs

TomHendricks

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I had my haircut and Royal Shave yesterday and got to look around the store. Ned was my barber and he was fantastic. The store was immensely busy, with people just looking but also buying. About a dozen people came into the barber spa while I was there, several asking about getting aappointments.
 

CDavid

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Hair Cut and Royal Shave is $80.

Eighty dollars?!? Forty for a haircut?!? Uh, no.

I guess I'm just from the Old School where people would come to Disney World because it was all (and only) Disney related stuff. Oh well, that was all lost when Disney allowed a McDonalds a spot on property. I remember the protesters when Disney was changing things like Mr Toad's Wild Ride, but I guess now when there is change, everyone is FOR it....sigh...Ok, ok, I'll drink the Kool-Aid and jump on board I guess. :arghh:

WDW has never been 100% Disney Related Stuff. Corporate sponsors and their visible presence in the park have been around for quite some time.

There is a large and fundamental difference between corporate sponsors in Walt Disney World (restaurant sponsored by Coca-Cola, attraction sponsored by Nestle, etc.) and the corporate entity actually having its own branded store (McDonald's, Starbucks, Art of Shaving). The inclusion of generally recognizable outside companies as tenants is more recent and, indeed, people have always came to Walt Disney World for Disney; You cannot claim Disney offers experiences you can't get anywhere else when they offer many of the same things you can find half a dozen other places.

That's not a knock on Art of Shaving or any of the other Disney Springs' third-party tenants, and there is certainly a market for these goods. Most of the stores will likely do quite well. Still, we've clearly lost much of the unique to Disney, destination experiences when we have Ghirardelli and Earl of Sandwich (excellent though it is) instead of Donald's Dairy Dip and Lite Bite or Goofy's Grill.

They aren't removing any of the Disney related stuff. It's not like they are closing World of Disney to make room for a hat, sunglass and flip flop store

Many of the Disney owned and operated shops and dining establishments are already gone. The fact that such removal is not a current change doesn't diminish the loss of a unique Disney identity to the chopping complex. Again, most of these stores and restaurants look to be quite nice and well fit the market, but its not strictly a Disney experience. If this exact development - same tenants and design/architecture down to the last detail - had instead been built by a third party where Crossroads now stands, would posters here feel the same way about it?
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Eighty dollars?!? Forty for a haircut?!? Uh, no.





There is a large and fundamental difference between corporate sponsors in Walt Disney World (restaurant sponsored by Coca-Cola, attraction sponsored by Nestle, etc.) and the corporate entity actually having its own branded store (McDonald's, Starbucks, Art of Shaving). The inclusion of generally recognizable outside companies as tenants is more recent and, indeed, people have always came to Walt Disney World for Disney; You cannot claim Disney offers experiences you can't get anywhere else when they offer many of the same things you can find half a dozen other places.

That's not a knock on Art of Shaving or any of the other Disney Springs' third-party tenants, and there is certainly a market for these goods. Most of the stores will likely do quite well. Still, we've clearly lost much of the unique to Disney, destination experiences when we have Ghirardelli and Earl of Sandwich (excellent though it is) instead of Donald's Dairy Dip and Lite Bite or Goofy's Grill.



Many of the Disney owned and operated shops and dining establishments are already gone. The fact that such removal is not a current change doesn't diminish the loss of a unique Disney identity to the chopping complex. Again, most of these stores and restaurants look to be quite nice and well fit the market, but its not strictly a Disney experience. If this exact development - same tenants and design/architecture down to the last detail - had instead been built by a third party where Crossroads now stands, would posters here feel the same way about it?
Other than the original clubs at PI and Captain Jack's on the water, what Disney owned and operated shops and dining establishments closed to make way for this project?
 

CDavid

Well-Known Member
Other than the original clubs at PI and Captain Jack's on the water, what Disney owned and operated shops and dining establishments closed to make way for this project?

As I stated above, many of the Disney owned and operated establishments were previously removed in favor of third party tenants. And again, "The fact that such removal is not a current change doesn't diminish the loss of a unique Disney identity to the shopping complex."
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
As I stated above, many of the Disney owned and operated establishments were previously removed in favor of third party tenants. And again, "The fact that such removal is not a current change doesn't diminish the loss of a unique Disney identity to the shopping complex."
I really don't remember the shopping village from the 80s since I was just a kid and really couldn't have cared less about shopping. The DTD I remember from the 90s was primarily the marketplace and PI and later came West Side. The West Side was/is primarily 3rd party vendors, but I didn't think they replaced Disney owned establishments. I thought that was built in addition to what was already there. The Marketplace seems to me to be mostly the same mix. It's still mostly Disney operated stores, but they had 3rd party vendors like Rain Forest Cafe. PI is obviously gone and that seems to be the big change to me. So outside of PI what Disney owned establishments were removed for 3rd party tenants? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just can't think of anything major. It could be that the changes happened before my time.
 

Mouse Detective

Well-Known Member
So outside of PI what Disney owned establishments were removed for 3rd party tenants? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just can't think of anything major. It could be that the changes happened before my time.
Besides the clubs, all the numerous shops on Pleasure Island were Disney owned and were converted to 3rd party places.
 

Jon81uk

Well-Known Member
Besides the clubs, all the numerous shops on Pleasure Island were Disney owned and were converted to 3rd party places.

But most of the Disney-owned places on Pleasure Island sold the same merchandise as you could get in World of Disney, just displayed differently. Then Harley Davidson & Curl opened, but there was still some Disney merch.

When Disneyland first opened there were shops stocking other brands on Main St, they might have been run by Disney but they exclusively sold certain brands such as Timex or Hallmark (http://yesterland.com/photocenter.html). Also of course the Arribas Bros have sold glassware in Disney parks and DTD for years. Outside vendors and brands are nothing new. I'm not sure how much was Disney operated and how much was outside vendors but the original LBV Village sold an eclectic mix of stuff http://waltdatedworld.bravepages.com/id22.htm and then in the 90s is when the changes such as Rainforest Cafe and Lego happened http://allears.net/btp/dd_history.htm

Things change. Personally I think a boutique spa barbershop is a pretty decent addition, considering there is already a more ladies focused Spa/hairdressers at the Grand Floridian
 

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