4 becomes 5

DABIGCHEEZ

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Hoping the info I saw was true... so

I am a parent of the three children, putting us into the dreaded "accomadations for 5" catagory.

I am just curious if anyone knows how studios at Wilderness Villas go from an occupancy from 4 to 5 with the recent remodeling to include the flip out single sleeper. I was always told when making the reservations, the occupancy limit was a limit set fourth by the fire code from each county. It is why we really could legally only stay at AK... but of course we stayed in 1 bedrooms at others that still had a 4 person limit, but the extra needed room.

Since Room size was not changed, I am wondering how the occupancy "magically" went from 4-5? Some Mickey Money to the fire chief???
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
No clue. It probably never was against the fire code...they just told you that to deflect blame. If not, my guess is its a fire hazard to have people sleeping on the floor so as long as there is a bed for each person it's OK to have 5 in the room.
 

Nemo14

Well-Known Member
Hoping the info I saw was true... so

I am a parent of the three children, putting us into the dreaded "accomadations for 5" catagory.

I am just curious if anyone knows how studios at Wilderness Villas go from an occupancy from 4 to 5 with the recent remodeling to include the flip out single sleeper. I was always told when making the reservations, the occupancy limit was a limit set fourth by the fire code from each county. It is why we really could legally only stay at AK... but of course we stayed in 1 bedrooms at others that still had a 4 person limit, but the extra needed room.

Since Room size was not changed, I am wondering how the occupancy "magically" went from 4-5? Some Mickey Money to the fire chief???

I think it's more a matter of wallet size....
 

WWWD

Well-Known Member
Hoping the info I saw was true... so

I am a parent of the three children, putting us into the dreaded "accomadations for 5" catagory.

I am just curious if anyone knows how studios at Wilderness Villas go from an occupancy from 4 to 5 with the recent remodeling to include the flip out single sleeper. I was always told when making the reservations, the occupancy limit was a limit set fourth by the fire code from each county. It is why we really could legally only stay at AK... but of course we stayed in 1 bedrooms at others that still had a 4 person limit, but the extra needed room.

Since Room size was not changed, I am wondering how the occupancy "magically" went from 4-5? Some Mickey Money to the fire chief???

We also have three kids and I found this blog entry from a mom a few years ago -
http://minnemom.com/2010/02/06/hotel-room-large-family-fire-code/

I can see why hotels limit occupancy - more money and to limit spring break type atmosphere - but it seems many will allow larger families even if policy states othewise. There are actually various web-sites that list hotels friendly to larger families.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
We also have three kids and I found this blog entry from a mom a few years ago -
http://minnemom.com/2010/02/06/hotel-room-large-family-fire-code/

I can see why hotels limit occupancy - more money and to limit spring break type atmosphere - but it seems many will allow larger families even if policy states othewise. There are actually various web-sites that list hotels friendly to larger families.
It's all about money.

A similar situation: I was in Vegas with 4 friends a while back. We got in the cab line at the airport and waited. When we got to the front of the line we passed on the first 2 cabs which were standard sedans. The 3rd one was a minivan. We all tried to hop in, but the guy said he could only take 4 passengers not 5. A van seats 7 so even with nobody in the passenger seat we would have fit easily. We split up into 2 cabs. When I pressed the guy more he said it is a city ordinance passed to make sure cabs were safe. Of course the cab companies love it too since they get more money. The point is, even if the 4 person limit was part of a FL law or code it's something that Disney happily enforces in the name of making more money.
 

DABIGCHEEZ

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
Thanks for the replies and info. I kind of knew the answer which is why I called BS years ago. Thinking back when the kiddos were tots... we stayed in studios a couple times. Of course as they got older we needed the larger rooms anyway.
Would be very interesting to hear what the new Company BS line would be when posed this question though!
 

Phonedave

Well-Known Member
Hoping the info I saw was true... so

I am a parent of the three children, putting us into the dreaded "accomadations for 5" catagory.

I am just curious if anyone knows how studios at Wilderness Villas go from an occupancy from 4 to 5 with the recent remodeling to include the flip out single sleeper. I was always told when making the reservations, the occupancy limit was a limit set fourth by the fire code from each county. It is why we really could legally only stay at AK... but of course we stayed in 1 bedrooms at others that still had a 4 person limit, but the extra needed room.

Since Room size was not changed, I am wondering how the occupancy "magically" went from 4-5? Some Mickey Money to the fire chief???

The didn't "magically" go up. It was always "legal" to sleep 5 in VWL 1BR. I just did it in June of 2012. Me, my wife, and 3 kids (youngest was 6 at the time). They were all on the reservation, Disney knew about all of us, and they had no problems with it.

The thing is, there is only BEDDING for 4 (or at least was only bedding for 4). We had to bring an air mattress (and sheets / pillow / blanket) for the fifth. Disney did not advertise you could sleep 5, but you were allowed to. I suspect this is because many people would book 5, and then raise a stink when they didn't have a bed for the fifth.

-dave
 

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