2021 piece re Shrek's 20th anniversary vs. a 2011 take tying it to Tangled

Haymarket

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I like Shrek 2 and the fourth film, but this piece from 2021, on Shrek's 20th anniversary, pretty much captures much of the original movie's impact.

... Twenty years later, that flushing sound [from the opening] seems to signify the moment when blockbuster animation circled the drain. Shrek is a terrible movie. It’s not funny. It looks awful. It would influence many unfunny, awful-looking computer-animated comedies that copied its formula of glib self-reference and sickly sweet sentimentality. Three of those terrible movies were sequels to Shrek and one was a spin-off with a sequel in the works. The curse has eased but not lifted.

... It’s hard to account for why Shrek hit the cultural moment as squarely as it did – other than, you know, people seemed to enjoy it – or why it will be celebrated in 20th anniversary pieces other than this one. But it’s worth pointing out how comprehensively bad its legacy remains, opening up the floodgates for other major studios to pile celebrities into recording booths, feed them committee-polished one-liners and put those lines in the mouths of sassy CGI animals or human-ish residents of the uncanny valley. Worse yet, it encouraged a destructive, know-it-all attitude toward the classics that made any earnest engagement with them seem like a waste of time. Those once-upon-a-times were now rendered stodgy and lame, literally toilet paper.

... Last year, the National Film Registry added Shrek to the Library of Congress, which seals its canonization, but it’s remarkable how much of an early aughts relic it’s become, an amber-preserved monument to phenomena (Mike Myers, Smash Mouth, Michael Flatley) that hasn’t stood the test of time. Even the film’s referential style looks resolutely slow and unhip next to the whirring pop Cuisinarts of Lord and Miller productions like The Lego Movie and Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse or even IP-heavy Disney fare like Wreck-it Ralph and its sequel.
 
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Haymarket

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A 2011 piece about Tangled gives an earlier take, on Shrek's 10th anniversary:

... An animation of a Grimm fairytale is due to hit our screens in a fortnight. Do you think that Tangled is a straightforward, retelling of the brothers Grimm's version of Rapunzel? Or might it be a wildly postmodern, turning-convention-on-its-head rollercoaster ride with a kickass heroine, a wisecracking dude of a hero, and a crone who is scared of ageing, in place of the "wicked enchantress"?

... When postmodern fairy stories work, they can be joyful, as in much of the Shrek canon, and indeed, the original post-modern fairytale, The Princess Bride from 1987. And Tangled has been well received in the States.

... Not so long ago, a film of a fairytale, or indeed another traditional tale, would generally involve a faithful, though sanitised, retelling of the source material. Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Snow White and the Seven Dwarves, all animated by Disney, were versions of tales collected by the Grimms, and all left out the most fantastically gory details.

... Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm collected folk tales from German villages, their interest mainly academic and linguistic. Their versions, while more brutal than the animations, tended to leave out (or their sources, knowing that the Grimms were staunch Christians, omitted to tell them about) the more unpalatable details.

... Disney's Snow White, the studio's first animation in 1937, was a girl of her times. She was happy to spend her days cleaning up after seven men and stupidly opening the door to suspect apple vendors. She was so passive about attracting her prince that she was actually dead when she met him.

... Through the years, Disney heroines have evolved, slightly, with the times. Belle, of Beauty and the Beast, is entranced by books. The Little Mermaid's Ariel is insatiably curious about humans. Aladdin's Princess Jasmine is determined to marry whoever she wants, whereas Mulan leads an entire army into battle.

... In 2001, everything changed when Dreamworks strode confidently into the arena with Shrek. It is hard, now, to remember how exhilarating Shrek's arrival was, with its affectionate co opting of traditional characters ranging from the three little pigs to the three blind mice. It was irreverent yet good-hearted, it winked knowingly at the audience, and it still had a happy ending.

... It was an entertaining, involving idea, and spawned a wildly successful franchise. We live in a postmodern age, the age of Twitter, and in-jokes; playing with convention and self-referencing always go down well. Shrek's success meant that others were bound to follow, and follow they did.

In 2007, Disney gave us the enchanting Enchanted, which sees an animated princess, Gisele, sent to another world by her stepmother-in-law, emerging in modern New York. Most of the other offerings are less inspired. Would you like a copy of the straight-to-DVD Happily N'Ever After 2: Snow White - Another Bite @ The Apple? Are you sure? I have one on my desk.

When Hoodwinked came out, four years ago, I felt that it was time to stop the postmodernism. It now seemed to be a lazy way of getting an easy laugh. The studios are perfectly capable of inventing their own stories, as Pixar have done brilliantly for 25 years.

Disney says it has no plans for any more animated fairytales; and if Tangled does indeed prove to be the last, then so much the better. Perhaps we will all live happily ever after.
 

Haymarket

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2011: Shrek was refreshing, applying postmodernism (irreverent self-awareness, deconstruction and rejection of established ideals and tropes, intentionally discordant heavy application of contemporary mores, etc.), but after 10 years, it's getting a bit overdone, and it's badly attempted in most instances.
  • The Grimms applied a Christian lens to existing tales, early Disney used a lens comprising the widespread values of its time, and Shrek is the first highly successful application of our era's postmodernism to animated feature films.
  • Tangled does the same
    • I disagree here: it's hardly self-referential as a fairy tale, its most intentionally notable anachronisms are mostly in minor elements of characters' dialogues, and the female villain's obsession with youth has existed since the beginning of time (it's not an inherently campy, postmodern objective among female villains).
2021: Shrek, with its know-it-all deconstruction (i.e., its postmodern take), almost murdered the fairy tale, making a glib mockery of any earnest attempt to retell fairy tales.
  • I disagree here: Tangled was the cure, and its formula is available to anyone who wants to engage with old fairy tales in a contemporary manner that's actually quite light on now hoary postmodern mockery. Frozen applied that formula to immense success.
 
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