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    Loni Anderson, star of ‘WKRP in Cincinnati’, Dies at 79

    Since this has a Disney tie-in, I guess I've got a story to share ... Burt and Loni had adopted a baby and it was a pretty big news story at the time. When the baby was still an infant, my family happened to be in the Magic Kingdom (I think it was summer 1988). We were walking through the...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    I thought it was common knowledge. It was common knowledge in and around Hollywood going as far back as the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy. It was one of those films where Lucas insisted on (and received) a 100% cut on the opening weekend. That's at least 20 years. And more specifically, the rule...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    I think the word "insisting" is doing a lot of work in your question. As far as I know, I never cited any calculation formula ... and I certainly didn't insist anyone use it. This may shock everyone, but I don't really care what anyone thinks in this thread. Feel free to use any calculation...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    Only if they are getting similar opening weekend splits from the theater operators.
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    When I lived in Los Angeles, I used to purposefully annoy my friends by asserting that the greatest hero in film history was Gene Hackman in Superman because, if successful, his plan would have knocked Los Angeles into the ocean. /Otisburg seemed nice.
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    I'm going to ask a Superman spoilers question because it's been bothering me for several days and I'm not sure where else to ask it ... SPOILERS
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    Before or after the UK gave them $65 million in reimbursements? :)
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    The trades know. They have theater owners leaking the numbers to them. *shrugs shoulders* I really couldn't care less about that. My general assumption is that, except for a very rare handful of films (Lion King remake, Toy Story films), Disney's films are generally not getting an elevated...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    No, I'm not saying that movies are frontloaded. They are, but everyone knows that. What I am saying is that a recent change in modern cinema is the percentage the studios take from the opening weekend gross receipts. On tentpole films, it's not 50/50. Yes the movies are frontloaded ... and...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    That's an outdated metric, especially since the studios are taking a much larger percentage of the opening weekend box office in the modern movie space. It's closer to 110-125% of budget + marketing, not double.
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    Variety is claiming Superman had a marketing budget of $100 million. I don't believe it, but that's what they wrote. If true, you're looking at a $325-350 break even.
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    I think the break even is under $500 million. The WSJ said the budget was $225 million. If you double it for marketing expenses, that's $450. WSJ Article
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    Rumor Carousel of Progress in Trouble?

    I have no doubt that at some point in my lifetime (I'm 50), Disney will get rid of the COP. And I will hate it. But now I'm resigned to simply hoping that they will sell it to a millionaire Disneyphile collector instead of destroying it. It should exist somewhere. Hell, donate it to the...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    Luke had plenty of flaws. Then he overcame them in his hero's journey and became arguably THE HERO of the 1980s. Then he became an a-hole offscreen and ruined everything the rebellion had achieved in the original trilogy because Kennedy hates men and didn't care about destroying the $5 billion...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    Fine ... the last two films in the Star Wars sequel trilogy made $1.1 billion and should have made $3.5 billion (Avengers Infinity War + Endgame money). Kennedy is clearly a genius. Obviously she "got butts in the door" by hiring an office full of feminists who hated Luke Skywalker.
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    You buy something for $5 and it is now worth $50 dollars. If you sell it for $25, you didn't make $20 ... you just lost $25. The second two films in the sequel trilogy were lost money. So were Rogue Nation and Solo and pretty much every Star Wars project that has been produced since (with the...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    The Star Wars Sequel Trilogy definitely had a political message, but I'd argue the second two films underperformed, in-part, because of it being so explicit. And I would further argue that the politics being so overt killed Rogue One and Solo. But that's what happens when you put a back-up...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    And you feel that ... these films made money (to the extent that they did) because they touched a hot button issue? Full disclosure, I haven't seen Interstellar, Parasite, US, or Avatar 2. I'm not into horror films ... maybe they do benefit monetarily from being political. But I would argue...
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    Disney (and others) at the Box Office - Current State of Affairs

    Okay ... name the film in the last decade that made money because it touched a hot button issue. DIFFICULTY: Don't say Barbie because that film spent its entire run-up doing everything it could to hide that it had a feminist message.
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