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I don’t disagree. Muppets seem fine given it’s a coaster that will still be popular no matter what My point was just that “fine” is a wasted opportunity to do something “great” or even “good” that is more interesting and a narrative draw beyond the fact it’s a coaster I guess that’s the role...

This one’s a snooze fest. I don’t mind the Muppets, but they’re not a draw. “Updating” an aging ride with an aging IP that most Disney park guests aren’t excited about (i.e., what caused MV to get shut down in the first place) seems like a wasted opportunity at best Fortunately, this pretty...

That was precisely the point! Glad we agree Good thing is, operating cost savings help fund new customer experiences. Savings from an expedited closure could have been factored into the business case for investing in Monsters Inc land. I’m grateful these decisions are improving the experience...

So Dinosaur is indispensable to its park? And Muppetvision isn’t? I agree. Operating costs are not considered in a vacuum. Clearly, Disney knows Muppetvision is not a draw or in any serious demand; it’s just not a big deal to close it now and save the money and get to work on the new thing...

Even if you are an insider (as you’d have to be to speak so confidently…) it comes across like editorializing when you speak of the decision as driven by “financial gain”. Dinosaur is staying open a long time while major construction is happening nearby, so we have current examples of Disney...

Well clearly not. Not sure what expertise you have, but its certainly not economics or business. Closed restaurants absolutely result in lost revenue -- it's not just magically transferred elsewhere in the park. Or else by that argument Disney should close all restaurants except one per park to...

"Absolutely" eh?

Mirrors can be hard to face

Disney doesn't HAVE to open on Thursdays or sell cheeseburgers, either. Except they do, and they do have to start construction on Monsters Inc. land when shareholders are asking them how they're going to compete with the likes of Epic Universe and stay current with customer preferences...

It is an informed but partial view which is the point you are failing to humbly acknowledge. In fact, to claim one's construction or project or map-reading expertise gives license to claim a company closed an attraction early is to not respect the dozens of other functional experts needed to...

Lots of cynicism to unpack. Replacing an old show with a new land, show, restaurants, shops and an E-ticket attraction is profit maximization at the expense of customer experience? Closing that show down in order to start construction on said enhancements is profit maximization at the expense...

I get that and respect expertise. But when educated guesses translate into fury or resentment for a company, suspecting nefarious or anti-customer policies (e.g., "unnecessarily" closing a show that some guests still like), it starts to come across as delusion. Now, if a WDI insider came out and...

Even if they did close MV3D when they did to cut operating costs, financial considerations are perfectly valid reasons to set project timelines. They closed it, it's done, walls are up, and real construction has started on a new exciting experience. Unless you work at WDI, nobody here knows...

None of that matters. The fact is, the Frontierland we’ve experienced since opening day does not adhere to the rigid definition you hold in your mind. The world has never known the version of Frontierland you describe, and Disney is not obligated to adhere to fictitious standards that never...

I’ll just say…it’s pretty bold of you to say Walt Disney himself made a mistake putting Country Bears in Frontierland. That’s the kind of unfounded purism Disney (the company today) will never be able to satisfy Rather than adjust your definition of Frontierland to accommodate its creator's...

Love this. Hadn’t seen it. I agree that the realism and time period arguments are stale. If they ever existed, they were abandoned on opening day of the park and Walt’s own direct input into what should be in the land. So I don’t get the point to hold Cars to this nonexistent standard

Huh? This is a Frontierland expansion, not a new Cars Land. If they didn’t think it fit, they could’ve easily said it was the latter. The “past” and “from wilderness to civilization” are about as specific of a time period as “tomorrow” — how anyone would assume this means 1870s Utah and...

Yeah we completely disagree You took the word "past" -- and the ~250 years this country has existed -- and assumed one specific decade :) Makes it difficult to proceed, but I'll try Off-road vehicles have existed since the 1900s (the decade). Cars as an IP takes place 20 years ago And that...

Except I didn't. There is "specific" and there is "uber-specific" and I don't know what you think that dedication speech says or not Does it place the land in every place in the world and every time period ever? Obviously not. Does it place the land specifically in Utah or Arizona in the...

Splash Mountain (talking animated animals in the South) right next to Big Thunder Mountain (ghost town mine train in Utah/Arizona) was already a "clash" nobody cared about or potentially even realized because the concepts were executed flawlessly and the styles were realized in a complementary...