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This is the crux of the issue, FP+ did work for free because it was not a skip the line pass, regardless what anyone thinks... it was much closer to a virtual queue. Moving to a paid skip the line pass will not alleviate standby waits but will singularly benefit those who want to pay. Depending...

Not sure about DLP but many queues in recent years have not been built to handle standby capacity. a 3 hr line when FP+ is in service is drastically less people than a 3 hr line without FP+ active. They have to do something with the excess standby if they restrict fastpasses by a large margin...

I recall these values being discussed by len testa on the disney dish as something that they had frequently measured. I absolutely cannot quote but I recall that it was close to this but maybe variable depending on some factors.

LOL still not quite sure I follow... but pretty sure 1+1=2

Cold fusion?

Honestly, i cant see the value in it at Cedar Point... its too expensive and Im turned off by it. At those prices I expect a WDW level experience, which it isnt... therefore I have chosen to return to WDW instead of Cedar Point. And yes, for people who pay, paid FP works better... but free FP...

Just raise ticket prices ~$10/ day... sure, they'll get kickback as always but it would settle. The problem is they want more, a 10% increase in ticket revenue isnt enough. they will do this, and also add sales from monetized FP+.

How are those FP+ free standby lines working for everyone now? Ready to come back to the dark side yet? maybe email disney and let them know that you too want FP+ back?

I live 50 min away from Cedar Point. The last time I went was ~10 years ago? I have been to WDW maybe 8 times in the past 5 years. One of the reasons that WDW appeals to me where Cedar Point doesn't (even though they have phenomenal coasters) is the ability to enjoy a park day however I want and...

id sign a petition lol

although I do not want this system... i believe it is very very close to what we will get and certainly better than DLP

LOL they are doing this as well, see crab legs at Cape May.

Also, this is me as well. Although I am usually at the pool for the afternoon :cool:.

You misunderstand me, I am 100% on the side that FP+ is a substantial benefit to everyone who at least uses it minimally. This comment was to help clarify what another poster wasn't clear on, which was making those arguments easily refutable. It is a complex system that is not easily understood...

rumored prices are $100-$300 per person per day....

None of those points were listed in the original statement... I read the original comment as a hypothetical, attempting to suggest that often we are misled by manipulative pricing as an analogy to FP+ vs. standby only. I absolutely agree with the sentiment, the math just didn't yield the...

Im not sure I understand your point; could you explain what you mean? I am genuinely curious.

LOLOL or when little mermaid is down in order to ride all the mountains in an hour , I also know nothing about it ;)

i stumbled across it a couple weeks ago when googling around just curiously looking to see if I could find some of the code. I absolutely would never use anything line this and honestly would not share it either, sorry. But it exists out there lol.

This is correct and an excellent observation regarding the not so obvious complexity of mathematics as it applies in many of the arguments here. This scenario yields a net 2.5% savings over the initial price... is it really 25%? No, is it misleading? yes. Are you better off with 2.5% vs. no...