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They could be non-deeded. There are a lot of different ways it could be set up.

They can put traditional properties in the trust if they want to. Other timeshare companies do this.

Part of the problem is that normally the construction cost of a new resort is baked into the (absurdly high) buy-cost of a timeshare. However in this case, Disney is essentially baking the construction cost in twice, once into the buy in cost, and again into the absurdly high dues so it can be...

Also, using September is a bad example since that’s lowest of low season. I picked a random week in November instead it’s 5 nights for 110 points November 2-6, Sunday-Friday. Nothing special about that weekend, it’s before Veterans Day/Jersey Week. The discount rate right now is $422 a night...

This is much closer to historical rack rate discounts for the Cabins.

Assuming people are paying rack rate for the cabins in September is problematic, especially when they are no longer brand new, and also ignores the thriving rental market, including renting from owners who have points that have dues that are two thirds cheaper than CFW owners. The older cabins...

The ROFR thread on disboards does a pretty good job of tracking what people are paying resale. The 2042 resorts are still ridiculously overpriced, but you can make the math work for most of the others if you divide the buy in cost over the life of the resort and add in the dues assuming an...

Given the price of the dues and how high dues are likely to increase (especially as this property ages and needs full replacements in 25 years), it’s questionable whether you could make the math work if you received this timeshare for free. There’s a reason that so many timeshares have negative...

You spend $23k for the right to spend a ridiculous amount on extremely high maintenance fees every year to stay for a week. (I’m limiting this analysis to the Cabins, for the other properties, especially on the resale market, you can make the math work). The math simply does not work for the...

Alien Swirling Saucers clone but with Ursula.

TP data doesnt seem to go back beyond 2010. @lentesta, do you have older data or is 2010 when you started collecting? It does make sense though that that’s just not a busy weekend. People with school-aged children aren’t generally taking their kids out of school to go to Disney World the...

From @Lentesta’s touringplans historical crowd level data for Labor Day: 2025: Crowd Level 2 2024: Crowd Level 3 2023: Crowd Level 2 2022: Crowd Level 3 2021: Crowd Level 2 2020: Crowd Level 2 2019: Crowd Level 1 2018: Crowd Level 2 2017: Crowd Level 6 2016: Crowd Level 5 2015: Crowd...

Turns out I was partially correct!

Rotating DVC lounge and sales center. First scene is free refreshments. Second scene is a sales pitch. Third scene offers popcorn buckets for sale. Fourth scene is Walt Disney animatronic talking about how it was always his dream to sell timeshares to the masses.

Different laws. WDW is private property, Disney could absolutely remove any strikers from property. The impact to this will be to restaurant ops, not to people seeing a picket line in the World Showcase.

Labor Day was never crowded. It’s the last weekend before school starts for half the country, and the third weekend after school starts for the other half. Parents with school-aged children aren’t going that weekend.

An off-center incorrectly hued piece of tape is a fitting tribute to the Galactic Failcruiser.

Rode it yesterday. They did a good job with this update. It felt more “Epcot” than the previous version. Wish they had removed the “simulated almost crash” as that’s always been painful, but I understand that the track is the same. Door was still in the open position when I rode, wonder if...

Nah. Boo to you is still great. They can (and do) update it by swapping out floats, but it’s a great, catchy tune that everyone still loves.

No, it’s almost certainly not. You think a mid-august date is the same crowd level as 10/31?