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key seems to be to take advantage of the 1/2 hr early entry, be at gates 1/2 before that time, and you will be right into short line; using that 1 hr could save you an addition 60-90 minutes if you wait even a little later

I can only speak to Nov 10-14 where it seemed in most cases posted wait times were same or close to actual wait times, its tough as once in line a lot can happen to increase or decrease wait time that can not be predicted, if anything they may be shorter but not by a lot; get into park as soon...

yea there certainly are many issues, questions and challenges around planning WDW trip these days. And I see why many may have second thoughts and need to change plans giving all the uncertainty around so many aspects of WDW visits currently. Hope your family does get to take a trip in the future.

agreed, a few weeks ago was my 11th lifetime WDW trip (BTW my first one was at age 6 at Christmas 1971), we managed fine without Genie+ and LL .......BUT can foresee that as crowds and lines increase with this holiday season and in 2022 as 50th celebration continues and pandemic wanes, many...

HAHAHA yea it rained hard a few days, apparently WDW sold out of all their expensive rain covers. We had packed light jackets with hoods so avoided the worse of it.

We used from AoA last week to EPCOT and DS (buses not offered), and we had no waits. I would think in early December you will have no long waits.

Frankly we only went because my wife and daughter otherwise would have only had 1/2 day in MK (in afternoon) and with crowds and lines, very limited ability to enjoy the rides and attractions they wanted. At the current cost, I don't see the value. But that's just my view of it.

It was a little busier then I expected, but not really surprised as crowds grew starting on Veterans Day as many other took advantage of federal holiday as we did, getting into parks early before main opening helped (we did not use Genie+ or LL but saw many families using) and plus since my wife...

if interested and you have been following my original post here, you can find my post trip report here (look in trip reports thread) "Early days....long days...crowds and rain..."

Day 5 "The END"-AK/flight home... we got slower and later start as had to pack bags and drop off at front desk, park opened at 730a (early entry) but we got through gates with short wait soon after 8am when regular crowds started to arrive, straight over to.......you all know where....... Avatar...

Day 4 Sat Nov 13-Disney Studies, up and on Skyliner to park at 740a for 800a early entry, straight into park, and joined crowd heading to Rise of the Resistance, were in queue before 8am, actually advanced all through the line up to last step before loading into spacecraft..when..........ride...

Day 3 Fri Nov 12 EPCOT - took advantage of early entry, took Skyliner from AoA to EPCOT, park was already pretty busy at 10am with food and wine festival in full swing, rode Test Track (40 min) wait followed by Soarin (50 min) wait, spent rest of morning and afternoon walking around World...

Day two Thurs Nov 11- MK (830a-8p)/Disney Very Merriest After Hours Party (9p-12p), arrived at gate for early morning magic, headed straight to Peter Pan-was still 40 minute wait!!, rode Jingle Cruise, went to TikiTikiTiki room, had Dole Whip for snack, walked around to take pictures, looked...

Day one Weds Nov 10- travel/MK... my son (age 26) and I arrived in Orlando airport around 1040am (early arrival-remarkable), down to baggage claim, check in at Magic Express, about one hour wait for bus to AoA, followed by 40 min drive to resort, got notification room was ready while on bus, so...

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we were in WDW and used several times with no issue, earlier issues may have been due to lack of staff but as visitors increase so has staff

We were in WDW last week for five days and actually make use of the mobile ordering, found it quick, easy and very convenient.

OK will work up and post a more detailed day by day report

yep, and we managed just fine without using Genie+ or buying Lightning Lane (can see the advantage, especially for families with kids but the cost was just not one we could justify given how expenses airline tickets were, plus the resort with tickets, the few dinners we booked, and the items and...

yea planning and having a strategy is key, especially for families with young kids. Less hours and increase in crowds makes for a challenge, but manageable if you have plan and reasonable expectations