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  1. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    Not to mention even if you did not want to stack, the current way even though 1 at a time I can pick a ride for 8pm at 7am and still get a choice 2 hours after the park opens. The new system would be fine of they still allowed the 2 hour rule with 3 pre selected.
  2. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    Forgove me if asked already, What happens if the 3 rides you pick 7 days on advance are all for late in the day? Suppose 5pm, 6pm and 7pm. Based on the new system you can only select another after you redeem your first ride. So you can't pick another until after the 5pm ride is redeemed? Seems...
  3. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    Despite the recent change which I hate also, my experience with Genie + was also a good one. But that is because I became familiar with it from this forum and other social media sites on how to use it. I was able to do things I had never ever once been able to do in other trips, like go on...
  4. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    You would think that if they are capping Genie + sales so that they do not run out of ride inventory so quick, itll mean the only scramble would be purchasing Genie + during the midnight rush and not worrying so much about ride availability since now everyone will be able to get rhe rides they...
  5. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    WDW is not designed to handle this type of system (Premier Access like Paris). too many parks, too many attractions. Bundling rides for a set price is better of the two evils.
  6. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    Well, they also said Genie + will never sell out. That changed. I actually do not see any logical reason for doing this other then Flexible pricing. At least when everyone had the option to purchase it, for those who wanted to buy it the day of they can at 6:45 AM before they make their...
  7. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    Resort guests who want to purchase in advance or as part of their package for assurance and less money while in WDW are now forced to wait until day of. This is a terrible idea. All around. For so many reasons. At least when I went, since I had learned the ins and outside of Genie + and all its...
  8. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    Aside from this opening the door for Disney to change the price of Genie + on a select day/days, it now means people will have to wake up at midnight the day of to purchase Genie + to avoid losing out (on and off site guests). So now its a mad scramble to buy Genie + at midnight and a mad...
  9. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    As soon as GOG opens end of May and Tron opens, Frozen and Space would have moved anyway to Genie +. It is less incentive until then though for resort guests who had 7am priveleges for the ILLs. Now they have 4 instead of 8.
  10. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    This change happened during the holidays. I was happy to save money (aside from the $15) and go on all 4 rides with Genie + or standby. It does open up more availability being one more ride to choose from.
  11. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    Agree with this. Also, for me at least, the total time saved is what I measure the value I got out of Genie +. The ILL's really are worth it during busy weeks/days also. We saved a lot more time then any other trip.
  12. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    You are not allowed to pick out some flaws. You have to hate it entirely. 😛
  13. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    I got charged more. But I also did ride more. I purchased the line skipping product. That's what I paid for. Was there ever a trip that you took where you can walk onto Soarin and TT and save 2 hours of your day? Or SDD and Rise and save 4 hours? No question it cost money to do that, but to...
  14. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    I know equally as many people who got their money's worth and did not have issues as people who hated it. For the record.
  15. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    How can you tell me it's a lie when I experienced it? Every day every park I rode no less then 4 rides with Genie +. And 3 of the 4 involved multiple rides that were previously "tier 1" with free FP+. You are not wrong in some of your claims and complaints. But you make it seem as if there are...
  16. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    While some of what you say is definitely true, you are still making it much worse then it is. I was there the busiest week of the year and was able to do things with Genie + that past trips I never was able to accomplish in a day. Like riding Soarin and Test Track and going on Remy all in the...
  17. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    Focusing on Rise first I bought that right at 7am for 6pm. I knew SDD would show up at around 7:10 am like it always does with some availability for later in the day (although not for long). I was able to get SDD for 3:45-4:45 as my first Genie + choice that way also. This was New Years week...
  18. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    8 of the rides are (4 when we were there) not part of Genie + but the ILLs are still a part of the line skipping system. I can tell you from my experience as an onsite guest during the holidays, you stay off site you have none (0) chance to purchase those rides. They will be long unavailable by...
  19. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    The truth is, seeing the same management issues as the others, all the things they took from us etc, I cannot help but to admit we have always had a good time in Disney. We never had a bad experience. When that happens is the day we stop going. Genie + certainly has its kinks, but the...
  20. Waters Back Side

    Lightning Lane at Walt Disney World

    I still prefer the old FP+ for planning purposes and getting picks done for the entire trip in advance and not having to wake up at 7 AM. However I will say with Genie + i was able to do things I never was able to in the past. I had all rides we wanted to do pre-selected so it was on top of the...
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