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  1. October82

    News Red Car Trolley to close February 8, 2025

    There is no coherent version of the IP driven park that DCA is becoming - it's a park of six or seven directions and this is a step towards even more commitment to that (lack of) vision. As @Too Many Hats said, many of the best parts of DCA are the remaining California elements, and it's...
  2. October82

    HELP planning!!! I'm starting to get put off by TD and my head is exploding!

    Others may have more recent experience with regard to FantasySprings, but I would stick with the Sheraton. If you're worried about getting on some of those unique attractions, do Premier Access if you need. The BayMax attraction, for example, is better to watch than to experience, so I...
  3. October82

    News Avatar Experience coming to Disneyland Resort

    Yes, it's quite clear that he recognized and cared about this. Disney's love for Americana is well documented and demonstrated throughout his life. Many of his successes, both personal and professional, as well as his questionable ideas (EPCOT city) are attributable to it.
  4. October82

    News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

    They don’t need to stay the same. Acknowledging that doesn’t mean all change is good.
  5. October82

    News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

    Theme parks have come a long way in 70 years. Even if this were true - and it’s not - that wouldn’t make these sorts of decisions good ones.
  6. October82

    News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

    Really not sure where this idea came from that you can’t recognize the flaws in things you enjoy. Disney isn’t paying us, we pay them. If you don’t like something about the product you should be critical of it and not spend money on it. You shouldn’t defend it just cause it’s a brand you’ve...
  7. October82

    News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

    Disney parks have never been kids parks. It’s pretty telling that your view is that you can look past the aspects that take away from them. You shouldn’t have to. Not having to is practically the founding principle of Disney Theme Parks.
  8. October82

    News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

    Marketing is the science of convincing people to buy products that they don’t want or need. If you enjoy the product that Disney is selling, good for you. But you shouldn’t suggest people are wrong to discuss the decline in the quality of the product or point out the bait and switch between...
  9. October82

    News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

    Just to expand on this a bit - Disney Parks were always more than the sum of their parts. That was the Disney parks brand and it’s what made them different from Universal and even regional amusement parks. It’s also possible for the parks to be less than the sum of their parts.
  10. October82

    News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

    I would qualify this and say that creatives understand how to use cultural motifs, architectural elements, and design details in ways that allow for suspension of disbelief. The same is done in quality animation and live action film making. It’s not that PotC ever explicitly explains the time...
  11. October82

    News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

    Permits are already being filed. This isn’t going to develop in any direction better than what has been shown. As so many are apt to remind, Disney is a corporation with a profit motive. What they say on stage or in a press statement is marketing speak designed to keep customers spending...
  12. October82

    News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

    The problem is they’ve given no indication they actually plan to do this. It’s just backstory marketing speak meant to appeal to parks fans like us, not an actual plan to change the MK in a way that makes sense.
  13. October82

    News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

    A very succinct summary of my feelings towards Disney at this point.
  14. October82

    News 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

    I suspect it’s to minimize the possibility of a ride vehicle impacting a fixed object. Since that is pretty intrinsic to the ride system, IMO, the best use of the technology is for attractions like Tokyo’s Beauty and the Beast where the point is for the ride vehicles to interact.
  15. October82

    News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

    It's also very easy to get to/from the center of Paris. Very well worth adding a day to your trip if you're a Disney Parks fan. (I wouldn't add a second day for "Disney Adventure World" until Lion King splash mountain opens - the best attractions there exist in some form at WDW and the park...
  16. October82

    News Test Track to be reimagined

    Some of it was marketing driven but a lot of the stuff people didn’t like was part of a fairly serious and widespread design trend called Memphis. It was out of place at EPCOT because the architecture was distinctly modernist and Memphis was a strongly post-modern style.
  17. October82

    News Test Track to be reimagined

    I’m far from the first to say it, but it’s weird how willing Disney is to restore so many aspects of EPCOT Center while throwing away the soul of the place. I can think of some cynical reasons for it, but I’d like to believe that there are some people left who “get it”.
  18. October82

    News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

    The mountain is apparently from a Planes short, which would also fit much better on that side of the park. Ultimately, the placement seems to be driven by the cost to mitigate the land issues in the areas available for expansion. This is simply the cheapest option, and it's left to WDI to do...
  19. October82

    News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

    Josh D'Amaro is both a career marketer and the person who ultimately makes - or more likely advocates - these decisions. Much of Disney's corporate leadership have marketing and consumer products backgrounds with few having creative ones. From public comments WDI employees have made, it seems...
  20. October82

    News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

    How is the theme changing? Are people saying that it’s changing or are they demoing buildings to change the theme so Cars fits? Theme isn’t backstory - it’s woven into the details and architecture of theme parks, mostly working through people’s understanding of cultural motifs. You can’t...
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