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Seriously, I don't know what you mean when you use the word "facts." This is all about whether it's a work of art that can be critiqued as such or isn't such a thing and shouldn't be critiqued as if it were. Now if I say, e.g., "You'll notice that no ghost is visible before Madame Leota," or...

I really don't know what kind of "facts" you're referring to, or what kind of "citation" you mean. In the meantime, perhaps some stats would interest you and the others who think it's just a funsy ride and people like me are making something out of nothing, overdoing it, taking something...

Same here. I find the exchanges enjoyable and stimulating rather than something to be angry about. Hey, sometimes I even change my mind. There are a lot of features of "real reality" that would be tedious and irritating if incorporated into artistic depictions. On TV, in supposedly realistic...

Keep in mind that I'm always talking about the original Imagineers and their show concept. Some of the stuff that's come along since then has been an awkward fit (like that stupid hearse and horse harness), and if push comes to shove, okay, I'll concede that the Mr. Toad statue may be an...

Exactly what I have always done. Think I could use a break too.

Actually, I am a college professor. Where are these "philosophical statements on life" in my posts?

The only artwork inside the HM (or "out back") that is in the same goofy style as the Bertie bust is George with the hatchet in his head at the bottom of the widow portrait. I suspect that it is a direct stylistic influence, actually. The problem is, the bizarre bottoms to those portraits are...

If you read through my earlier posts, I have mentioned "ghostly activity" more than once. It kind of goes without saying, doesn't it? The Mr. Toad tribute is kinda dumb in the HM environment, but it's a statue. A sculpture. If you ran across something like it on the grounds of some old...

Ghosts are doing that. Are you saying that "A depiction of the real world except that ghosts are real" is not entertaining, but it is a philosophical statement of life?

As I keep saying, everything is like the real world, except for ghosts and ghostly activity. As the stretchroom demonstrates, the ghosts have the ability to warp your sense of space (and, as you soon discover, time), so that you don't know if some of what you see is really there or distorted by...

Are these supposed to be hard? Point by point. The hearse parked out front As you discover inside, it's a retirement home for ghosts. Evidently, one of them arrived with his commandeered real-world hearse (poltergeists steal physical objects all the time) and his ghost horse, and he...

No, I'm reading out of it what the Imagineers put there. And what's "way too much"? The original HM is a depiction of the real world except that ghosts are real. Gee, that's so philosophical and analytical and complicated.

As I have said many times, it's a representation of the real world. Like a "realistic" painting or a "realistic" novel. And what I'm talking about has nothing to do with "backstory." Where is "backstory" in anything I've said? This is a thoughtful statement, and you'll have to forgive me: I'm...

Perfectly good question. Two things. One is a question of what is simply a good idea for an artistic, entertaining presentation. Lots of people have fantasized about visiting a haunted house and finding out that ghosts are real after all. Not many people throw sea serpents and aliens into...

That's your opinion and you are entitled to it as much as I am to mine. But while everyone is entitled to their own opinions, no one is entitled to their own facts. I think it is a fact that the fundamental concept of the ride has been changed. If you say, "Yes, perhaps it has, but that's...

The ghosts are slapstick and goofy. The graveyard they appear in is not. It's intended as a representation of a real-world graveyard. So you're saying that what the original Imagineers intended is simply one interpretation, no more valid than any random rider's interpretation? That isn't what...

Every ride has a concept. In the HM, what is represented is your world, except with ghosts. It's as simple as that. If you remove the ghosts and ghostly activity, it's just you walking through an old house, and there is nothing presented to you that is illogical, nothing that contradicts the...

I guess if logical argument is unavailable to you, making funny little faces will have to do.

Is it a big deal? Consider: From 1969 until this month, the HM has always been this: A representation of the real world, today, with the sole difference that ghosts and ghostly activity are real, all kinds of ghosts, both "serious" ghosts and the made-up-for-fun ghosts of comic songs...

I agree completely. This started out with me wanting to get Eddie's take on the new queue, but I don't want it hijacked and turned into another HM discussion thread.