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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Another doozie from Orange County: "do not offer self food services". So presumably no microwave, toaster, or in-resort retail outlet selling bread etc. Heaven help DVC -- are they going to disconnect the cookers and refuse grocery orders?
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Another site has a slightly more detailed list of measures that does include "sneeze" barriers to protect check-in staff and suggests housekeeping should only clean rooms after guests have checked out.. It also calls for the removal of all coffee makers from rooms. What's that all about?
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Some seem to work on the assumption that if they are behind you, you're not breathing on them and you can't see them to give them the stinky eye.
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    No reference at all to restrictions/requirements in respect of customers (e.g. no reference to guests having to amend behavior, wear masks or be subject to temp checks) except for marking out distancing within queues. Specified measures to protect guests from employees, but no specified...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Add in the 20% of people seen on tv wearing masks but with their nostrils showing above the mask. Do they really believe they only have to cover their mouth?
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    And don't forget the morons who apply the sanitizer and then "dry" their hands on paper towels. Saw two people in front of me at the grocery store do this last week...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    I've seen comments elsewhere suggesting the children may not need to wear masks because there appears to be a relatively low infection rate. However, there is now concern in the UK that this may not be the case. Our Health Secretary this week wrote to all doctors warning them to be on the...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    I think for a major brand like Disney, there are separate phases. A key 4th phase would be: "Can we make money or will we lose money under phases 2 and 3, and what is the reputational risk and long term impact on the brand value if there is an outbreak that can be contact-traced to our parks.
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Well in Rome, they are re-designating large city center areas as foot-traffic and bicycle only areas, recognizing that the lock down reduced city pollution and improved other health metrics.
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    Which makes it really weird that the rest of the world's developed economies got together this week to discuss vaccine development and working together but the U.S. gov. chose not to participate.
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    I will salute Dr. Katz;s service. I think the point I was making was that the younger deaths may not be appearing in the CDC sampling because they are sampling respiratory deaths not heart-related/blood clot illness and deaths and the docs on the front-line are saying there is a marked...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    That's why trends -- changes in answers when the same question is asked -- is usually regarded as more informative over time, particularly if you can get the same survey groups to respond to repeated surveys.
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    As a professor at the London School of Economics told me many years ago: "Statistics are like lamp posts for a drunken man -- they can either illuminate the path home, or you can cling on to them to keep you up-right." Katz's argument ignores some data now coming through from medics that...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    As an across the ponder, can I assure you that having lost a very large empire over the years, we are quite relaxed about U.S. independence.. But as part of contemplating the "new normal" I think Americans might have to re-think expectations about the nature of public celebrations on July 4th...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    As I pointed out, the average is pretty meaningless when the world's biggest hot spot with more cases than many countries is running at more than 20%. The important figure, for many Americans living outside the big cities is the under 4% figure for the non-city parts of NY state suggesting that...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    I don't understand where your data is coming from. Yes it is true that over 20% of the random testing in New York City showed people had had the disease, and that maybe 12% had had it in other counties in the state where there had been substantial outbreaks, but elsewhere in New York state...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    You do not want mega crowds turning up for fireworks on the first day of opening -- just as they shouldn't really have had a larger than normal crowd (caused by the advanced notice of closure) on closing night. Start with smaller crowds. Wait a month to see if there are any outbreaks linked...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    No. It depends on the science and the research. Do you really want to dismiss this insight because it comes from Chinese researchers?
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    They impact the hospital system if a) they don't realize they are carriers/spreaders of the disease and so don't feel a need to self-isolate; b) they then infect family members or co-workers who do require hospitalization; and c) they are sick with symptoms but go to work anyway because they...
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    Coronavirus and Walt Disney World general discussion

    There is a graphic out there which shows how many neighboring dinners were infected by a asymptomatic covid positive person in an evening in a restaurant. 2 probable factors contributed to the spread -- firstly, everyone dining was there for at least an hour (not just briefly passing through...
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