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  1. Horizonsfan

    EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

    Prior to the late 90s dissolution of the logos they absolutely were. Even more recently there’s the WOM logo reintroduced all over the place with TT’s 2012 remodel. It seems odd to make a big deal about bringing them back, and then not include them in the JOW signage like back in the day...
  2. Horizonsfan

    EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

    It's bizarre that they went to the trouble of creating a new "pavilion" symbol for JOW. Then as far as I can tell, it's nowhere to be found on the site signage. :banghead:
  3. Horizonsfan

    News Destination D23 2023

    In the past, that kind of language would have made me anticipate smaller-scale announcements. Stuff like the long-delayed BTMRR upgrades, CBJ changes, Tiki Room changes, and the long-delayed new film for China. Now even all that seems too optimistic.
  4. Horizonsfan

    Zach Riddley promoted to Global Creative Strategy Executive

    Does this move mean that Fitzgerald will regain creative lead for Epcot? Or is that still up in the air?
  5. Horizonsfan

    News Zootopia and Moana Blue Sky concepts for Disney's Animal Kingdom

    Between the Cretaceous trail, link between Dinosaur and Chester/Hester’s, and Dinosaurs (unnecessary) extended queue, there’d still be quite a bit of expansion land in a shrunken Dinoland. I wish they’d take that route. You wouldn’t be able to squeeze in any E’s, but you could conceivably add...
  6. Horizonsfan

    EPCOT Inventors Circle in FW West

    It was a cool feature but, it doesn’t really make sense there with the new land delineations. In an alternate/better timeline, they’d be creating a new version in World Discovery. Ideally it’d be replacing the last bit of 90s pavement near Connections.
  7. Horizonsfan

    EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

    It has nothing to do with the hub or CH, as you say they’ll be completely buffered by landscaping. The only context will be the seas, the old future world west ponds & SSE beyond, all undeniably modern in their aesthetics. Even post Nemo-fication. I’m less antagonistic towards this than some...
  8. Horizonsfan

    EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

    JOW’s main issue isn't the content. WOM, Kitchen Kabaret, and later WOL all bent things in a fantastical direction. The big issue with JOW is the aesthetics. Classic Epcot had plenty of non-futuristic locales. SSE, WOM, UOE, Imagination, The Land, and eventually WOL all had decidedly...
  9. Horizonsfan

    EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

    No. That’s permanent pavement and landscaped for the foreseeable future. The only path disappearing is the bypass from Coral Reef to the main entry.
  10. Horizonsfan

    EPCOT Journey of Water featuring Moana coming to Epcot

    How many cut throughs do you really need in that spot? There’s a new one from the seas to SSE and the prior one from The Land to the center of world celebration. That area is more accessible now than it’s been in nearly 30 years.
  11. Horizonsfan

    EPCOT What's next for Epcot 2024 and Beyond

    Coco is a compelling property, but GFT seems to do okay pulling in crowds. That said, they absolutely should move the jewelry shop elsewhere and use that space for additional queue space. If they're going to continue with IP in World Showcase, Greece & Herc are far and away the most compelling...
  12. Horizonsfan

    2023 EPCOT International Food and Wine Festival

    It's clear the muppet overlay had a small budget, but I appreciate what they did with it. Kudos to the team that worked on the design. For a seasonal overlay it does what it needs to. I’m hoping it can come back next year, perhaps with a budget for plussing. I also appreciate that they left...
  13. Horizonsfan

    Scentsy and Walt Disney World are bringing a new guest experience within Fantasyland in Magic Kingdom

    People are disappointed, they’re clearly channeling that in the comment section of announcements like this. I suppose they think it’ll have more impact than GR or other avenues. I think most of us here know Disney only listens to wallets.
  14. Horizonsfan

    Scentsy and Walt Disney World are bringing a new guest experience within Fantasyland in Magic Kingdom

    Let me reiterate…Beyond the weird influencer hype, I don’t really care. I was giving a run down to someone who said they didn’t understand. The issue isn’t what was done in the past, it’s the relative dearth of stuff coming in the future.
  15. Horizonsfan

    Scentsy and Walt Disney World are bringing a new guest experience within Fantasyland in Magic Kingdom

    You said you didn’t understand why people were complaining so I gave you a summary. Many people find MLM unethical businesses. This is a discussion forum, I’m not sure why you need to make it personal. Perhaps you should heed your own advice and take a breather. Yeah nobody’s saying it’s a...
  16. Horizonsfan

    Scentsy and Walt Disney World are bringing a new guest experience within Fantasyland in Magic Kingdom

    The issue isn’t the “attraction” itself. It’s that they did a preemptive promotion for it instead of just installing it, highlighting just how little of substance is going on at the parks now. The fact the sponsor is a MLM is ethically dubious at best. The icing on the cringe cake is...
  17. Horizonsfan

    News Hatbox Ghost coming to Walt Disney World's Haunted Mansion

    They’re going to ruin the endless hallway… I shouldn’t be, but I’m once again surprised they managed to pick the worst option.
  18. Horizonsfan

    2023 EPCOT International Food and Wine Festival

    The limited-time treats are just background noise at this point, solely for vloggers. All of that could go away tomorrow and I wouldn't care. F&W is the only festival that feels pointless, though the holidays around the world festival is pretty half-hearted anymore. Two things effectively...
  19. Horizonsfan

    EPCOT What's next for Epcot 2024 and Beyond

    Playing a song is a lot less risky than installing awkward LCDs and jibjab animation, but to each their own. And by that logic, we should never have a new figment ride…I disagree.
  20. Horizonsfan

    EPCOT What's next for Epcot 2024 and Beyond

    A full reimagined Horizons would buy a ton of fan good will. Even one that is more reliant on projection mapping or screens would be a statement of appreciation. It’s bizarre how Disney resists reimagining lost Florida classics. Most regional parks do this to varying degrees. Uni did it to an...
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