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I admit that the last time I watched "Peter Pan", the Red Indian scene made me wince a bit. But I wonder if I winced because I truly found it offensive, or if I winced because I thought I was supposed to. That scene didn't faze me at all when I saw it as a kid. I didn't think it made fun of...

As a caveat, I did get my back up about the rumor that The Twilight Zone Tower of Terror would be replaced with Marvel junk (thankfully that didn't happen in Orlando). But the reason that the rumor upset me is not because I'm a huge fan of the Twilight Zone, and that the ToT is the only ride in...

Maybe people are doing a lot of guessing and wishful thinking?

Including Brer Rabbit?

Because Mickey Mouse is a genuine Disney creation. The company logo. The character that started it all. The Muppets are an unnecessary acquisition that has added little value to the company overall. Since you asked.

Muppets needed to be replaced long ago, and I still wonder if that's what the name change from Muppets Courtyard to Grand Avenue was all about. (Oh, the angst that erupted on these boards when that happened!) Launch Bay is a waste of space (no pun intended) that also needs to go. Before or...

So your idea is to replace Mickey Mouse with the Muppets. In a Disney park. And you think that'd be more popular. Gotcha. :rolleyes:

The people who run this forum are apparently more tolerant of differing opinions than you. This "keep them going no matter how bad/dated the product is" mentality is truly baffling to me. And I daresay, to others. Or maybe you've never heard of the "wrong-sounding Muppets" trope?

Splash Mountain got several petitions denouncing its removal. Did that move the needle? No. We still got a piece-of-crap replacement.

Then, maybe, the solution is to let them die with him...?

Yeah, that's why the latest show on Disney+ folded after one season. Which is just another addition to the litany of failures. Yes, they're part of pop culture. But they're not DISNEY culture. That's why they need to go, especially since they're a money-loser. Good grief, Howdy Doody and Kukla...

If Disney folds because of a minority of people screaming about the loss of a very old and little-liked attraction (as far as Gen Z is concerned), how does it justify removing the Liberty Belle and Rivers of America?

It's old tech compared to the tech in Monsters Laugh Floor and Turtle Talk. Just saying...

But...but...the Muppets are so popular!!!!

They're puppets (okay, filmed puppets, but still). In a theater. What's the problem?

Try to make it clear that all this is your opinion, not fact, okay?

Martin has always been reliable. When the rumor went out that the puppets were going to appear in Liberty Square (and there was quite a bit of pushback on that here), Martin said that there was some truth to it, and what do you know...

Good. I mean, come on. The puppet theater is gonna disappear sooner or later. Again, it was removed from Disneyland and nobody shed a tear. (Where were you THEN, Josh Gad?) The VAST majority of parkgoers will enjoy a Monsters Inc. Land more than they ever enjoyed the puppet theater. (Again...

Guess we'll find out. Oh, yes...I should have remembered...thank god Spirit told us what the twits at Disney were planning. Especially now that we've seen Mission Breakout at Disneyland. Good god, what an eyesore...and what a narrative mess. Thank god the original Tower still exists in...

And what would be the problem with that? Better in DHS than where it is now. Unless...it was going to desecrate the Tower of Terror :eek:?