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No, it is not cheap to buy it that way. But I find staying at Universal Portofino Bay is great since it includes free Express Pass for the duration. With Genie+ all you get is the opportunity to book or buy Lightning Lanes for specific times you cannot control. Universal Express Pass lets you...

I can't say YES loud enough to properly answer. I am so dismayed at Disney these days. The current Disney business model is "pay more to get less". We have not been to Disney since 2018 now and we'll see about our next trip planned for December 2022. It is interesting that Disney recently sent...

Let's see now. ROL is gone an what do we see in the park brochure. Hmmm, nothing less than this new kite show is being advertised. Say what you want. ROL is gone. KiteTails is there. Okay, so Disney does not call it a replacement. But it is in the same location and OMG what a terrible...

Just watched a number of videos on YouTube covering the new kite show. So this is what Disney came up with to replace Rivers of Light? Really...just a few small boats pulling kites around the lagoon. How lame can you get? What a joke! Well, I guess the kites, the few drivers, and a little gas...

Just another chapter in the ongoing saga of "Disney Diminished". Will it ever end?

Universal is up and coming...Disney is down and falling. Enough said.

Wishful thinking, but I can certainly agree with the sentiment. I am doing my part by splitting our future vacations and will definitely be spending less at WDW. Now maybe, just maybe, if a few million other people started thinking the same way, then...

I checked "No...staying in the bubble is still worth it"; but that is not the full story here as I see it. - I am nothing short of "mad" at Disney right now...not saying that anyone anywhere would care. I am still planning to stay "in the bubble" only because that is apparently the best way to...

When are we going to learn that current Disney management could not care less about the overall guest experience. All that matters is how much $$$ they can squeeze from each guest. I heard a story about how Chapek and Iger recently rededicated Disney World...to the almighty dollar that is.

Both! COVID has destroyed Disney as the Magical place I once knew and Genie totally sucks as a FastPass replacement.

Hear! Hear!! Well said.

Here! Here!! This was so well said. Thank you. I am already reacting (retention as you called it) by making my next trip a split stay at Disney and Universal...something that (to me anyway) was unthinkable a few years ago. I loved staying at the Contemporary and thus in the middle of the...

Already made plans for December 2022 but now this whole situation with Disney has changed my outlook. I will reduce my Disney trip to 5 nights at a moderate but only buy a 4-day ticket with Genie+. Without reserved FastPass, I see no reason to waste my time or $$$ for a few park hours on the day...

Your outlook is obviously rosier then mine. I will await the reviews once this Genie thing comes online. We shall see. I don't doubt that I will be forced to use it if I want to ride anything good. That is totally Disney's plan. Get more $$$ out of me.:mad:

Probably much better than with this Genie+. Like I said, now Disney has turned away from planning to an everyday crap shoot. From 7 AM on for every single day you are there, it's all a matter of continuously working the Genie app on your phone. And lets not forget that to use Lightning Lane...

Concur completely. I once could plan a trip and reserve the best rides in advance and know that I would enjoy the trip. Now, with Genie+ and if I want to get best use out of the system, I must be up early every day at 7 AM with a phone in my face and then spend most of the day with a phone in my...

Disney World will NEVER be as good as it was before 2020 and will likely never come back to greatness again.

Well, I just recently cancelled our 18-25 September trip. Disney is just too diminished and simply not worth the price to us. In fact, we are skipping Florida this year. I made a reservation for the same Contemporary Resort package (MKV room, tickets, MM) for 3 - 10 December 2022 at a full...

You darn right it does. $1100/night at Contemporary and come back after a long day at the parks to no service and cold wet towels on the floor. Not hardly. I expect more for that price! And no daily room service is just the beginning...

I guess another question is..."what advantage will there be to staying on-site or at a deluxe resort?" If all this goes to off site guest then I will likely never pay all that extra to stay on property again.