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  1. J

    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    Hmmm. Interesting take. Common sense not ur thing I guess. Thanks for playing
  2. J

    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    Lol. PP isn't 3-6x cheaper than VIP. One could argue it's actually more expensive for what you get. 4 parks, park hopping, guide, unlimited riding 10 people etc. It's not apples to apples. What im saying is, the alternative is a $/@$@") ton cheaper making this not worth it for what you...
  3. J

    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    Maybe........But instead of saving for 5 years to do that trip, they now have to save for 8.......
  4. J

    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    Would anyone buy this today in my example in Hollywood studios? Those are actual numbers today I would honestly appreciate any feedback with the logic because I cannot figure out who the target audience is here.......I am the target audience financially (DVC, dine at signature restaurants...
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    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    I agree with that......But not vs the alternative for 3 parks (exception obv being MK).........the price difference is just too much of a hurdle to the vast majority of guests This is a niche product when presented with the alternative when factoring in price
  6. J

    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    Here's why I think LLPP cannot co exist with LLMP/LLSP Nobody that I know, or should I say anyone with half a brain would do this Using today at HS for my family of 5 as an example (remind you it's only 1pm EST): LLMP is $27pp and Rise is $25pp for a total of $52 PP or $260 total cost VS...
  7. J

    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    For those that want to do no waiting (like me)
  8. J

    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    I hope you're right because i think thats a better program
  9. J

    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    In Epcot and AK it would never be an issue at all........I have done those 2 parks countless times and have got on every single ride every time..........in HS it would occasionally........Also I said "almost" the same yield........it would depend on crowd levels And for $35 vs $350 in HS, I...
  10. J

    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    How? Thats their main audience that buys it....where would the revenue come from?
  11. J

    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    I think they should have kept Genie+ and just tweaked it by allowing resort guests to: pre book 7 days in advance for length of stay....Value get one, Moderate get 2 and Deluxe get 3 PLUS ILL's This would have: 1) Eliminated the 7am wake 2) preserved the spontaneity aspect 3) incentivized...
  12. J

    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    Yes true and a lot of people want it that way (btw, I am NOT one of them)......... Only thing is, how do they incentivize their expensive Deluxe Hotels? We just saw that this is an issue for them and they needed to do something about it......
  13. J

    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    This is what I mean as an example: On average, lets say across 4 parks you can buy all available LLSP and a LLMP for $35pp (on average)........... If they tweaked LLPP and made it $350pp but it included ALL PARKS (thus selling more park hoppers as an added bonus) and anyone could buy it, hotel...
  14. J

    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    I think once they find the equilibrium where they are making the same $ off LLPP as they are now, they will eliminate the other options so they dont cannibalize the higher priced offering of LLPP
  15. J

    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    I make enough money to afford this and theres ZERO chance I would ever buy it because you can get almost the exact same in terms of ride yield with LLMP/LLSP for a fraction of the cost and some time planning on ur phone.....
  16. J

    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    As Premier Pass is currently constituted, I dont think theres a big market for it due to the alternative and its limitations..........Would anyone here pay $329 at HS to get on the 8 rides there vs Universals option that is cheaper and includes every rides in both parks (soon to have a 3 park...
  17. J

    Lightning Lane Premier Pass

    I haven't read the previous pages so forgive me if this was mentioned but this 100% seems like the first stage of eliminating LLMP (and maybe LLSP)......... It will need to be tweaked (pricing, including all parks, including different hotel tiers, etc) but to me this is the beginning of the end...
  18. J

    Likelihood of Tables in Wonderland returning.

    TIW was the single best perk that we ever used......we would go as a party of 10 and to get 20% off on all meals including alcohol we would recoup our cost in less than one day of a week+ stay........ It was the one thing I was looking for on the new paid perks that DVC just offered and I will...
  19. J

    Rumor WDW is considering a Universal-like Express Pass

    much smaller pool and those people arent repeat guests....they tend to do different experiences each year
  20. J

    Rumor WDW is considering a Universal-like Express Pass

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/10/why-disney-vacation-may-be-getting-too-pricey-for-average-american-family.html I agree
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