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  1. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    1.8 would only be an approximate 10% drop off TFA. That would have Disney jumping for joy. I've thought from the beginning a 30% drop should be the goal. That would be about 1.4 billion. 40% ahead of Rogue One. 30% behind TFA. I think Disney would be very happy with that. That would have...
  2. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    You also have to take in account Rey's current state vs previous Jedi at the point we meet her. Rey's hermetic existence put her in what was basically an ideal jedi state. Living completely in the moment day to day, with no attachments, no materialism. The complete opposite of Luke and...
  3. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Didn't drop yesterday. Numbers are in for yesterday. On a day schools in recess grew by 14%, box office increased by 6.5%. TFA on the same day last year dropped a whopping 28%. Today, schools in recess will increase to 61%. Should be a nice number for TLJ today...
  4. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Which is fair. My point was against the idea that this is a universal reaction from people of our era. From my experience, online and in person, I'd say we OT era fans are split 50/50. (non-scientific obviously) With newer fans more along the lines of 80/20 positive to negative.
  5. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    I assume you mean The Force Awakens? And if so I agree. That has diminished for me over time. Some movies do, some movies get better. Different movies, different results.
  6. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    OK, we'll move past the Disney stuff. I agree some will make a pro or anti-disney stance reflexively. But it is dangerous to assume that of anyone...especially over the internet unless you have an extensive history with them. But to your other point, how can this be an objective betrayal of...
  7. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    First, assuming I am in the" Disney can do no wrong" is a big error on your part. Just because someone likes this movie, doesn't mean they are taking Disney's side blindly. You want to make arguments against the film, they are there to be made. Assuming everyone who is on the other side of...
  8. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Well, if you're referring to that video that's been circulated in the last few days, that is fabricated. Edited to make it appear like he was talking about TLJ when he wasn't. But yes, Mark did have issues with the direction. I don't really care what the director or the actor think. I care...
  9. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    I am an older (OT era) fan too. I don't think its a divide between eras. I know many OT era fans who love this movie (most of teh ones I have talked to actually). I think its just a division of expectations. What you wanted out of this movie vs what others wanted.
  10. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    I'm not sure...but I'm getting the feeling you think this is something worth watching. But maybe I'm misreading you. :)
  11. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    As a life-long Star Wars fan (and not a new one), I completely disagree with everything you said here, but I respect the general viewpoint. I understand a large number of fans will feel the same way. Disney knew it would be divisive. Johnson knew it would be divisive. But I'm glad they did...
  12. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    They really aren't though. They are well below TFA, but not projections. Not according to any of the legitimate trades anyway. Friedman may be reputable, but he is in disagreement with pretty much every other box office analyst. Maybe he's the prophet here and everyone else is wrong. But...
  13. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Funny how a different, less click-baity headline, and a more balanced analysis change the entire feel. ‘Last Jedi’ Raises Running Domestic Cume To $296M+; ‘Jumanji’ Totaling $15M+ In Two Days – Update...
  14. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    I agree. I think this should have been better explained in The Force Awakens to give a better understanding of current galactic politics that led to the rise of the First Order. There was an entire plotline that was cut from TFA involving Leia's aide who is sent to Hosnian prime to argue with...
  15. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Again, it doesn't need to be so stark. I didn't say it had no meaning to the First Order. I said it has less meaning to the First Order than to the Resistance. I do suggest you read some of the outside material if you are already interested. It does help inform the story. Short version...
  16. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    I think the disconnect here is that you are assuming Disney sees the TFA numbers across the board as some sort of average that would be strived for with every release. If they did, then that is poor management by Disney. TFA should be treated a a positive outlier from the beginning for all...
  17. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    This is very much a part of the merch equation. Pre-TFA there was a built in demand for new SW merch. Since then a saturation has hit that there isn't such a rush to run out and grab everything anymore. You know there will be more 6 months to a year down the line, so you just buy a bit with...
  18. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    I actually have a working theory on this. Not sure how well it holds up yet. But Snoke's comments about light needing to rise to match the dark, combined with the location of every force ghost event in the saga could play into the ability (as well as feasibly the force projection power, since...
  19. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Rey, as with Finn, and as with Poe's stories were all about failure and learning the dangers of hero worship. Discovering that that seemingly heroic action, while it might give you legendary status, is not always the best choice for winning the war. Rey's story in particular was about...
  20. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Just to piggy back, there's also something to be said for emotional weight to the character. In Empire, as with TLJ, alot of the plot threads are important because they are important to the character and the character's development, even if they are relatively insignificant in to blowing up a...
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