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  1. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    We do all remember the movie has been out only a week right? I think it will still make a few more bucks before it starts collecting dust in the bargain bin at best buy.
  2. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Death Star pulls power from Kyber Crystal (same crystals used in lightsabers). Starkiller is the one that pulls from the sun.
  3. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    I won't argue that one. Super-Leia is one of my nitpicks that hasn't faded with subsequent viewings. Takes me out of the movie each time. But in the end, its just a nitpick. I can look past that one scene. Pretty much every star wars movie has a couple of those scenes it in that I wish I...
  4. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    There is a difference in being able to recover from something and it being insignificant. Starkiller base was a significant threat to every other planet in the galaxy clearly. What with its physics defying ability to blow up any planet it wants. The resistance needed to blow it up to survive...
  5. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Again, maybe just me. But that was a relatively small group of storm troopers and one general with some subordinates around him. I always took it as a very important base of operations, but not the location of the entirety of their resources. Snoke implies as much when he commands Hux and...
  6. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    To specific numbers. It was the top pre-sale of the year on fandango, which is inline with current box office. It will likely be the biggest domestic release of the year, barring some catastrophic failure. Disney and Lucasfilm have been upfront on their expectations for this being below TFA...
  7. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Yeah, I accept that. I hadn't thought of it as misleading until now, but I can see how it could be somewhat confusing. Again, I think the model off keeping that info off screen is fun for super fans like me who like to tear through the supplementary books, but is probably unnecessarily...
  8. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    TLJ is heading for the same problem Avengers: AoU. Even if it falls right in line with projections and finishes smack in the middle of Rogue One and TLJ for a top 3-4 all time take, people who want will try to spin that as a disappointment because it is lower than TFA.
  9. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Not really. Why would anyone think its their HQ if it isn't where their Supreme leader is? I didn't even occur to me that people would have thought that until you brought it up here.
  10. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    As I said much earlier in this thread. There's a valid debate to be had over how much emphasis Star Wars puts on needing information outside of the films to understand internal logic. But it has been the model for these films since the days of the OT. Whether it was knowing the Emperor's name...
  11. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Who says they didn't? But there's no reason the troops would have used that death star canon in that battle. And no army would store their entire weapons cache in one place. Starkiller wasn't the First Order's headquarters. It was just a weapon. The Supremacy is the central location of the...
  12. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    I see your point somewhat, but technically none of those things would have been useful in TFA. The First Order never knew the location of the Rebels, so you never saw their siege weaponry or tracking abilities. In TFA the resistance went to the FO. In TLJ the FO went to the Resistance.
  13. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Its an interesting point, but begs the question is it predictive because they are right, or because they have a captive, sympathetic audience, whose opinions are radicalized through listening to them. The reason I don't think that would likely apply here, is because there is a clear split...
  14. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    I didn’t say kids liking makes it successful. What I said was in my personal experience, across all segments, I see general positive consensus that matches critics and cinemascore ratings. I have only thus far met significant hate in social media comments. That leads me to believe, much like...
  15. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    That is a possibility. I hope you are wrong, but it is plausible. But, when I'm not here I write for a Star wars site. Over there, with the hardest of the hardcore, the people who have seemingly been the most upset about the direction of this movie, we've seen an unscientific 80/20 split on...
  16. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    While I disagree that there were many plot holes, discontinuities, or poor character choices (I haven't been tied to this thread all week, so I'm not sure what exactly the list is at this point) people should also remember that what one values in a movie is different than the next person. To...
  17. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Star Wars is for everyone, but that doesn't necessarily mean every movie needs to be. I like TFA. Love TLJ. Don't really care for Rogue One. I can be fine with the fact that there is a market for Rogue One out there. That there is a large portion of the fanbase that loves it, even if I find...
  18. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Historically, Movies with an "A" Cinemascore have an average 3.6x modifier off opening weekend. Which would end TLJ's haul at 792 domestically. I doubt it will get that high personally (even though I am a fan of the movie and don't have the same issues some here have, I realize it isn't for...
  19. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Star Wars generally under performs internationally against other modern franchises due to relative lack of interest in China. The originals were not easily available in China during their initial release, so there is no ingrained cultural love for the franchise like there is in other parts of...
  20. Gomer

    Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Ep 8). SPOILERS. Plot points revealed and discussed.

    Excuse the nerd interruption, but... The bombs are magnetically propelled out of the chamber per the visual dictionary. Debates about whether you should need external sources to legitimize in movie logic, notwithstanding. There was a reasoning behind it.
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