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So does anyone think they'll attempt to explain why there are modern all-terrain vehicles next to a bayou from the 1920's sitting next to a town from the 19th century? Or is it just a given that Disney has given up on making things make sense?

You can. My husband and I skip it regularly. But Epcot is a must every trip, and sometimes it's the only park we do. MK is too crowded and it's a pain of a park to deal with. And that's without the stuff they're planning to add. Now...I know we're the outliers and I do totally get your point...

I think the thing that leaves me feeling unsettled about all this, outside of losing RoA, is how this was handled. The timing of the announcement about the placement of Cars was a slap in the face to fans. They could have waited a few months to at least give the appearance that it wasn't fully...

I mean...okay. But this was also the early artist rendering of TBA and we don't have a tree with a boat in it at the top of the hill. Artist renderings are often much different than reality. I don't think people are questioning if there will be any water features at all. Just questioning what...

I'm genuinely curious. Are you making these claims based just on the artist rendering? Or based on some kind of inside knowledge?

But something they promised...and didn't quite deliver. And now they're gone (as they should be). Much like many of the water features around the property.

I don't even remember us having canoes! I started going in 1992...were they around then?

I have to disagree with you about DL's BTM. I actually like WDW's better. They're both immensely fun, but there's just something about WDW's that I prefer. The canoes and Columbia I'm sure add a lot to the energy...when they're running. Again, they weren't when I was there in 2019, so I can't...

100% this. TSI and the riverboat were every bit as repeatable as any other attraction in WDW. Maybe not everyone viewed it as a must do every visit, but that doesn't mean no one did or that the attractions had no value outside of a one time visit. I feel like this is a result of FP/LL and, as...

Those are valid points. I went to DL during the week so Fantasmic wasn't going at night, I think they weren't doing the canoes, and unfortunately the Columbia was docked while we were there. So for me it was literally no different than WDW's current version. That being said, all those points are...

I keep seeing comments about how MK has the worst FL, but I honestly don't get it. What makes other FLs more special than MK's? I've been to DL and their FL seemed small and didn't have much more (if anything more) to offer than MK's. Of course, now it will with their shooting arcade, riverboat...

See, now that I think would work better. And it could kind of tie in with the flooded town on BTM. Although I don't know if they'd want 2 water rides beside each other.

That makes total sense. I worry what will happen when/if Chevy pulls their sponsorship. Funny how Disney used to feel more "Disney" when other companies sponsored attractions 🤔 Too bad that didn't work out as well with Cirque du Soleil though.

The irony here is that they had the perfect opportunity to shove Cars into Epcot with the TT retheme. But nope...Cars goes to MK 🤷

But can you see any of those while standing in Frontierland? I feel like the people trying to make the argument that Disney still has water features, or appear to be adding water features in the Cars area are missing what others are saying. Yes - there are OTHER water features on property. Yes...

And THIS is why these places mean so much and are so important. Disney needs more space like TSI that are timeless and relevant to any age group, even if you know nothing about the story they're based on. They need places that even adults can explore and reconnect with their inner child. People...

Never said I was triggered by your opinion. But you sure seem to be triggered over others' opinions. I was one opposed to the Splash/Tiana switch. Mostly because I didn't like PatF as a movie. And because Splash was a modern masterpiece of an attraction and I didn't trust current Disney to make...

I'm just saying people seem to think this will help MKs capacity issues. And I don't see it helping as much as some people seem to think.

Why are you so bothered about people caring about something? That's weird to me. Especially when this type of reaction is to be expected on a forum like this. Also, why do you think this will help with capacity issues? It won't. More square footage means Disney will increase park max capacity...